Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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They will be moved, and like so many others flourish under another club... - aminnes
Rask and Steen are the only current ones I can think of ... are there others? |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Yup, but the ones they need to move they can't, so someone who is actually good will have to moved. bottom 6 will likely be all Marlies save Clarkson... Step back... - aminnes
don't know if having kids who can actually play in the bottom-6, instead of the two facepunchers is a step back.
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Rask and Steen are the only current ones I can think of ... are there others? - Tumbleweed
Boyes kinda did.
Tlusty had one good season. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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If they are moved
What can you realistically expect back?
I think Reimer has been shopped but no one bit on him - I can see him back next year - MTL1
They ruined Reimer so his value right now is low, meaning they will likely gov e him away or have to qualify him, meaning less room on the cap. Same goes for Franny, somehow his play regressed without Fraser, so his value is moot... They will likely have to walk away and make him a FA for nothing... Maybe a 3rd rounder?... |
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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They will make more moves
They have to
20M to sign 11 guys
Some big contracts will need to move - MTL1
Once Chicago is done signing Toews and Kane next year, they'll have around $5 million to sign that many.
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Yup, but the ones they need to move they can't, so someone who is actually good will have to moved. bottom 6 will likely be all Marlies save Clarkson... Step back... - aminnes
Every contract claimed to be "unmovable" has been moved before. Gomez was moved.
Toskala and Jason Blake moved. Brian Campbell's 7 million dollars was movable at a time when 7 million was a ridiculous contract. Lou was moved.
All about keeping expectations of the return down. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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don't know if having kids who can actually play in the bottom-6, instead of the two facepunchers is a step back. - Feeling Glucky?
The face punchers haven't played much especially last year. I do remember the last time the Leafs made the playoffs they had two enforcers who played most nights and I remember Orr keeping Boston well away from Phil a couple years back... |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Every contract claimed to be "unmovable" has been moved before. Gomez was moved.
Toskala and Jason Blake moved. Brian Campbell's 7 million dollars was movable at a time when 7 million was a ridiculous contract. Lou was moved.
All about keeping expectations of the return down. - Aaron_85
Oh they can be moved, just basically for nothing... As far as Lou and Campbell, the Cats had to get to the floor so... |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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The face punchers haven't played much especially last year. I do remember the last time the Leafs made the playoffs they had two enforcers who played most nights and I remember Orr keeping Boston well away from Phil a couple years back... - aminnes
they were on roster, but they only played 3 minutes a night
They were useless last year. Nobody was willing to fight them, so the intimidation factor was gone.
Having a 4th line that can play 10+ minutes a night, as opposed to those two wastes of skates would be a big improvement. |
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MTL1
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Brampton, ON Joined: 06.30.2006
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Once Chicago is done signing Toews and Kane next year, they'll have around $5 million to sign that many. - The Shrike
I think they will end up at around 9m each |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Maybe not, I don't know enough about the development of your average hockey player to have a definite opinion. I just believe that if you're playing against men in a professional league, and holding your own by all accounts, playing against kids could cause a shift in this kid's progress. - BetterCallSaul
Against men but still in Sweden on the bigger ice which means more time and space and less physical contact. The sooner he plays on the smaller ice, where he can adjust to having less time and space and more physicality, the better. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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they were on roster, but they only played 3 minutes a night
They were useless last year. Nobody was willing to fight them, so the intimidation factor was gone.
Having a 4th line that can play 10+ minutes a night, as opposed to those two wastes of skates would be a big improvement. - Feeling Glucky?
Okay... Just saying, they played a role on a better team than last year... |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Against men but still in Sweden on the bigger ice which means more time and space and less physical contact. The sooner he plays on the smaller ice, where he can adjust to having less time and space and more physicality, the better. - JohnFergusonJr
Yep, barely get hit in Sweden... |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Back to the good 'ol days of JFJ... - aminnes
It was a good time while it lasted. |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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Okay... Just saying, they played a role on a better team than last year... - aminnes
yup.
And then they forgot how to play hockey.
Don't care why, just want a better 4th line now. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Oh they can be moved, just basically for nothing... As far as Lou and Campbell, the Cats had to get to the floor so... - aminnes
What was the habs and anaheims reasons for taking those contracts? Who cares why the other team takes them as long as they do.
Also, who cares if it's basically for nothing. Your argument, if i understand it correctly, is that the contracts are holding back the team from progressing so wouldn't removing them be good enough? Or are you a fan who wants a fair value trade while ridding yourself of a bad contract? |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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It was a good time while it lasted. - JohnFergusonJr
remember how people wanted Burke gone?
I don't mind Nonis, but Burke was definitely a better GM. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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yup.
And then they forgot how to play hockey.
Don't care why, just want a better 4th line now. - Feeling Glucky?
You don't make much sense here.... On one hand your saying that upgrading the 4th line is the difference maker while saying the 3 mins the 4th line plays in worthless... I don't get it... |
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BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Captain Morgan Rielly Joined: 05.07.2013
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Against men but still in Sweden on the bigger ice which means more time and space and less physical contact. The sooner he plays on the smaller ice, where he can adjust to having less time and space and more physicality, the better. - JohnFergusonJr
I agree, which is why I hope he plays in the AHL. But that would burn a year off of his ELC, so maybe they send him back to Sweden as a free year of development. |
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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...Having a 4th line that can play 10+ minutes a night, as opposed to those two wastes of skates would be a big improvement. - Feeling Glucky?
Carrick and D'Amigo would be a good start for the 4th line.
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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yup.
And then they forgot how to play hockey.
Don't care why, just want a better 4th line now. - Feeling Glucky?
Also, they are barely in the minus column, so it wasn't like they just ran around and got scored on... |
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fansince72
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 04.21.2014
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I think they will end up at around 9m each - MTL1 I'd keep Toews but i'd trade Kane for a shyt ton
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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I think they will end up at around 9m each - MTL1
They're asking for 12 each, so they'll probably get 10. That would bring Chicago up to $64 million for 14 players.
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MTL1
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Brampton, ON Joined: 06.30.2006
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I'd keep Toews but i'd trade Kane for a shyt ton - fansince72
Moving sharp and bickell next year will clear up 10m |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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I'd keep Toews but i'd trade Kane for a shyt ton - fansince72
They should, if they don't it'll be tampa part deux... |
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