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ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
May be late but I really like the Lagesson pick


Gotta chance to watch Frolunda and their junior team a lot while I was overseas, he's really solid player fundamentally and pretty effective at both ends of the ice. (skating could use some work but w.e). I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the pick. Dare I say Kronwall-lite (perhaps very lite )


I'm excited to see what he can do in the USHL next year

- Sabresfan-365


Good to hear. Never saw him but did a bit of reading and actually does sound like kronwall in a sense. Very physical apparently. I'd prefer he go to the chl
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
I don't mind older goalies actually. It's still a relative question mark for us so anything that's more assured is fine by me.
- Morris


Seeing what it cost us to acquire Scrivens and Fasth it's probably better to trade for goalies.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
I don't mind older goalies actually. It's still a relative question mark for us so anything that's more assured is fine by me.
- Morris


Actually good point on the 94 goalie. He showed good numbers at michigan
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
If we want Myers and Foligno, what are we talking about here? 2015 and 2016 1sts? Steep price to pay for this future.

Hall-Nuge-Eberle
Foligno-Draisaitl-Yakupov
Perron-Arcobello-Lander
Hendricks-Gordon-Pitlick

Nurse-Myers
Petry-Marincin
Schultz-Klefbom

- Morris


change lander to a winnik/downie and that team makes me pretty happy.

i was just throwing out names that have been discussed recently.
i look at their lineup and id be surprised if they moved either myers or foligno.

make a play for ehrhoff? hes gotta be available. and possibly for a reasonable price
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Seeing what it cost us to acquire Scrivens and Fasth it's probably better to trade for goalies.
- Reveen



Also good point
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
Seeing what it cost us to acquire Scrivens and Fasth it's probably better to trade for goalies.
- Reveen

but those are still question mark goalies.

generally speaking; the price's, lundqvists, quicks are drafted.
but they take time
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
Good to hear. Never saw him but did a bit of reading and actually does sound like kronwall in a sense. Very physical apparently. I'd prefer he go to the chl
- ystoil



I would as well but I feel his development won't be hindered taking the USHL route, Oilers have the depth so he doesn't need to be rushed.
nated81
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 07.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
I don't mind older goalies actually. It's still a relative question mark for us so anything that's more assured is fine by me.
- Morris

Yeah, considering it takes goalies longer to develop than any other position, taking the 20 year old is not an awful idea.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
but those are still question mark goalies.

generally speaking; the price's, lundqvists, quicks are drafted.
but they take time

- hugefemale dog77


They are usually taken in the top two rounds
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
http://youtu.be/VkR-F14cK1Y

Sweet highlight reel of LD
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
They are usually taken in the top two rounds
- Reveen

oh i see what you were saying.

i just thought u meant in general that one should only trade for goalies.

my bad
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:34 PM ET
change lander to a winnik/downie and that team makes me pretty happy.

i was just throwing out names that have been discussed recently.
i look at their lineup and id be surprised if they moved either myers or foligno.

make a play for ehrhoff? hes gotta be available. and possibly for a reasonable price

- hugefemale dog77


I'd say both of them are available but the price tag on the latter may be a bit high.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
http://youtu.be/VkR-F14cK1Y

Sweet highlight reel of LD

- CrustyRooster

sick.

the first couple plays where you see him use his size and strength as well as disgusting skillz is exciting.

some of the later ones just playing with defenders prob wont fly as much in the nhl.
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
sick.

the first couple plays where you see him use his size and strength as well as disgusting skillz is exciting.

some of the later ones just playing with defenders prob wont fly as much in the nhl.

- hugefemale dog77


Yeah I agree. His puck protection is ridiculous. It's crazy how his no look passes find the perfect spot every time too
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
Yeah I agree. His puck protection is ridiculous. It's crazy how his no look passes find the perfect spot every time too
- CrustyRooster


Good snap shot too. Once he gets moving he does pick up good speed. Just has to work on explosiveness of his first couple steps.
nated81
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 07.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
Anyone know if LD has some fight/grittiness to him? It would be good to get some toughness along with that skill.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'd say both of them are available but the price tag on the latter may be a bit high.
- Sabresfan-365


Foligno would be perfect here. I'd give up a 2nd? I wonder if the shadow of his father in buffalo affects anything? Maybe a change of scenery helps. Just speculating of course
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
Anyone know if LD has some fight/grittiness to him? It would be good to get some toughness along with that skill.
- nated81


Has a bit of a mean streak when provoked from what I've read. French compared him to Malkim in that sense. Not an initiator like Bennett.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
Anyone know if LD has some fight/grittiness to him? It would be good to get some toughness along with that skill.
- nated81


i think he relies on his size and strength, but isn't really what we could consider "scrappy" or "gritty"

i think the guys we see as future comparables don't really either.
theyre just so strong and so skilled, that part of the game has never really been necessary
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
Foligno would be perfect here. I'd give up a 2nd? I wonder if the shadow of his father in buffalo affects anything? Maybe a change of scenery helps. Just speculating of course
- ystoil



A little bit. When he was 1st called up he absolutely dominated both physically and the stat sheet. Like Myers, he set a very high bar for the fans very early.

I suspect he'll bounce back this up coming year, he's got a nice two way game and decent speed but he's not going to put up the numbers like his dad.

That being said, after watching them take Lemieux, he may wind up being the odd man out. Lemieux, Larsson, Compher, Girgensons...his time may be up. I think you'd find a lot of fans who'd say yes to a 2nd for him, seems fair at this point.
nated81
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 07.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:51 PM ET
Has a bit of a mean streak when provoked from what I've read. French compared him to Malkim in that sense. Not an initiator like Bennett.
- ystoil

Mean streaks can be good as long as it doesn't lead to stupid penalties.
nated81
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 07.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
i think he relies on his size and strength, but isn't really what we could consider "scrappy" or "gritty"

i think the guys we see as future comparables don't really either.
theyre just so strong and so skilled, that part of the game has never really been necessary

- hugefemale dog77

I would be happy with a Perron type of player. Someone that can score make plays and stick up for his team mates.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
A little bit. When he was 1st called up he absolutely dominated both physically and the stat sheet. Like Myers, he set a very high bar for the fans very early.

I suspect he'll bounce back this up coming year, he's got a nice two way game and decent speed but he's not going to put up the numbers like his dad.

That being said, after watching them take Lemieux, he may wind up being the odd man out. Lemieux, Larsson, Compher, Girgensons...his time may be up. I think you'd find a lot of fans who'd say yes to a 2nd for him, seems fair at this point.

- Sabresfan-365

good post.

i saw him abit early on and i this was the impression i got.
i recall a game against edm in that time and was incredibly impressed. we didn't have an answer for him. he was physically dominant and was all around the net wreaking havoc it seemed.
but by all accounts hes leveled off abit.

like myers, if a guy has shown that kind of game once at that young, he can absolutely get back there. maybe he felt less pressure, different coaching etc. just gotta find out what it was.

if we could get him for a 2nd, id do it yesterday. a perfect fit in edm
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:56 PM ET
good post.

i saw him abit early on and i this was the impression i got.
i recall a game against edm in that time and was incredeibly impressed. we didn't have an answer for him.
but by all accounts hes leveled off abit.

like myers, if a guy has shown that kind of game once at that young, he can absolutely get back there. maybe he felt less pressure, different coaching etc. just gotta find out what it was.

if we could get him for a 2nd, id do it yesterday

- hugefemale dog77


Edit: missed that bit for some reason, but bingo.

Myers managed to turn his game around because Nolan let him play his game instead of trying to change him, took the pressure off and started him off with some easier matchups.

I think whether Foligno stays here or gets dealt thats what he needs to get his confidence and game back, his name gave him a lot of un necessary pressure that most 3rd round picks don't usually get.

And yes fwiw I think he'd be a good fit for Edmonton.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
I would be happy with a Perron type of player. Someone that can score make plays and stick up for his team mates.
- nated81

perron is a little rat. sticky, chirpy and get under opponents skin. strong and willing for his size too.
combine that with his level of skill and he's a pain to play against.
his skillset is very unique on our roster.



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