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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:34 AM ET
I am quite happy with the draft and especially the money saved to go for UFAs. But do we really need any? Sure I would love to see Derek Roy back.



hummmm....ffwwwhhhhhh.... BWa-ha-ha-ha. Maybe he and Marco Sturn can pair up.



But a serious question here ----- we have used our 2 buyouts..... do we ever get anymore? Is there a deadline for a team to use their current buyouts? Can a buyout be traded to another organization?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:35 AM ET
If we are signing Miller, I'd rather we sign him to a 2-3 year deal and trade Lack. Lacks going to be 26 this year, and 29 around the end of a Miller contract. His value is pretty good right now, and if we can capitalize on that to land a upgrade somewhere, id seriously like Benning to consider that.

Taking Markstoms 1 way contract into consideration, I feel this is exactly what they are discussing right now. Lack vs Miller, spending 3 mill on Goal vs Spending 6-7, etc.

- Gullzy


As I said earlier, if it's more than one year my price would go way down, and I doubt a guy like Miller wants to be part of a rebuild at this stage of his career. I have no desire to get locked into any expensive players long term, flexibility moving forward is much more important. If Neither Lack nor Markstrom are their guy I can respect that, but I doubt Miller (or Hiller) is the bridge to their next starter.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:40 AM ET
I am quite happy with the draft and especially the money saved to go for UFAs. But do we really need any? Sure I would love to see Derek Roy back.



hummmm....ffwwwhhhhhh.... BWa-ha-ha-ha. Maybe he and Marco Sturn can pair up.



But a serious question here ----- we have used our 2 buyouts..... do we ever get anymore? Is there a deadline for a team to use their current buyouts? Can a buyout be traded to another organization?

- Beatle_john


Compliance buyouts were limited to two per team to be used prior to last season or this season and they are only for contracts signed prior to the existing CBA. Their function was to get out from under a 'Luongo' contract with no cap penalty. There is still the regular buyout which is 2/3 of the salary paid out over twice the remaining years, which still counts against the cap.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 3:43 AM ET
I am quite happy with the draft and especially the money saved to go for UFAs. But do we really need any? Sure I would love to see Derek Roy back.



hummmm....ffwwwhhhhhh.... BWa-ha-ha-ha. Maybe he and Marco Sturn can pair up.



But a serious question here ----- we have used our 2 buyouts..... do we ever get anymore? Is there a deadline for a team to use their current buyouts? Can a buyout be traded to another organization?

- Beatle_john

Not a fan of bringing in a bunch of UFAs, I say let the kids play, but I'd try to get Steve Ott.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:52 AM ET
I am quite happy with the draft and especially the money saved to go for UFAs. But do we really need any? Sure I would love to see Derek Roy back.



hummmm....ffwwwhhhhhh.... BWa-ha-ha-ha. Maybe he and Marco Sturn can pair up.



But a serious question here ----- we have used our 2 buyouts..... do we ever get anymore? Is there a deadline for a team to use their current buyouts? Can a buyout be traded to another organization?

- Beatle_john




CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Mike Cammalleri ($5.500m) / Paul Stastny ($6.800m) / Zack Kassian ($2.200m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m)
Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Bo Horvat ($0.894m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Luca Sbisa ($2.175m)
Chris Tanev ($2.500m) / Ryan Stanton ($0.550m)
Frank Corrado ($0.591m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m)
Eddie Lack ($1.150m)
BUYOUTS
David Booth ($0.000m)
Keith Ballard ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit)
Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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eternalcashflow
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.23.2014

Jun 29 @ 9:23 AM ET
Miller has something to prove. His playoff performance was un-spectacular. What I'm suggesting is that if the Canucks were actually interested in trying to make the playoffs, and they thought that Miller could help in this regard, that they should offer him that chance to prove he's worth a longer term deal by OVERPAYING him on a one year deal. Offer him $6.5m for one year, Lack backs him up and they get to ease Lack back into a starter role in a years time if he's ready.
- 1970vintage


6.5x1 is 6.5 million. 5x4 is 20 million. You'd have to offer him a hell of a lot more than 6.5 on a 1 year deal to offset the risk of having a bad season under a bad team and lessening the amount he could command after.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:31 AM ET
*checks google*
Thanks god

- kneughter

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:38 AM ET
I am quite happy with the draft and especially the money saved to go for UFAs. But do we really need any? Sure I would love to see Derek Roy back.



hummmm....ffwwwhhhhhh.... BWa-ha-ha-ha. Maybe he and Marco Sturn can pair up.



But a serious question here ----- we have used our 2 buyouts..... do we ever get anymore? Is there a deadline for a team to use their current buyouts? Can a buyout be traded to another organization?

- Beatle_john


Roy is not an option.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Mike Cammalleri ($5.500m) / Paul Stastny ($6.800m) / Zack Kassian ($2.200m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m)
Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Bo Horvat ($0.894m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Luca Sbisa ($2.175m)
Chris Tanev ($2.500m) / Ryan Stanton ($0.550m)
Frank Corrado ($0.591m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m)
Eddie Lack ($1.150m)
BUYOUTS
David Booth ($0.000m)
Keith Ballard ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit)
Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,393,611; BONUSES: $858,333
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $606,389

- kneughter



NoNo NoNo NoNo
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:51 AM ET
I think with Miller I would offer 5 mil /4 years term.That will give the new goalie time to get ready.


Cassels Lack Tanev for Myers deal will happen Tuesday .

Hansens NTC Kicks in Tuesday . Will he still be a Canuck?
eternalcashflow
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.23.2014

Jun 29 @ 9:58 AM ET
I think with Miller I would offer 5 mil /4 years term.That will give the new goalie time to get ready.


Cassels Lack Tanev for Myers deal will happen Tuesday .

Hansens NTC Kicks in Tuesday . Will he still be a Canuck?

- VANTEL


We could use Hansen and a lower 2015 pick to provoke a camp dump out of Boston (Erikkson? Boychuk? Krug?).
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:10 AM ET
We could use Hansen and a lower 2015 pick to provoke a camp dump out of Boston (Erikkson? Boychuk? Krug?).
- eternalcashflow


Im thinking they'll be willing to give up Marchand for Hansen plus a pick.

His NTC kicks in on Tuesday, so the deal would have to go down either today or tomorrow.

I dont know how I'd feel about giving up on him though. His contract is solid, and he plays a tough game. Some people think he can be a 20 goal scorer in the league.

In the lockout shortened season, he was on pace for about 50 points on the season.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Not a fan of bringing in a bunch of UFAs, I say let the kids play, but I'd try to get Steve Ott.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Wouldn't mind Winnik as well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
Im thinking they'll be willing to give up Marchand for Hansen plus a pick.

His NTC kicks in on Tuesday, so the deal would have to go down either today or tomorrow.

I dont know how I'd feel about giving up on him though. His contract is solid, and he plays a tough game. Some people think he can be a 20 goal scorer in the league.

In the lockout shortened season, he was on pace for about 50 points on the season.

- Gullzy

I think Benning will keep him. He is a north to south player with speed and checks. I think once he gets settled into a shut down role and pops in occasional goals ,he would be good.

Higgins and a second for Marchand may interest the Bruins seeing they at screwed with the cap.I would even throw in a week prospect
eternalcashflow
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.23.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:21 AM ET
I think Benning will keep him. he is a north to south player with speed and checks. I think once he gets settled into a shut down role and pops in occasional goals ,he would be good.

Higgins and a second for Marchand may interest the Bruins seeing they at screwed with the cap.I would even throw in a week prospect

- VANTEL


I think it's pretty unlikely we go after Marchand tbh. If Boston is tired of his antics, you'd have to think Benning would feel the same way. Also wouldn't be the best way to increase season ticket sales .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
I think it's pretty unlikely we go after Marchand tbh. If Boston is tired of his antics, you'd have to think Benning would feel the same way. Also wouldn't be the best way to increase season ticket sales .
- eternalcashflow

26 goals
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: BUF has initiated compliance buyout procedures on Christian Ehrhoff. Not official just yet but BUF has begun the process.

would ya?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
Good insightful write up Miss C.

I am fully expecting one more year of sub par play so as you said providing NHL ready players this year and stocking the cupboards, I am on board

Great Job Trader Jim.

- VANTEL


I'm ok with the Canucks missing the playoofs as they delelop a new identity. Getting into the top 6 next year and another good year of drafting.
eternalcashflow
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.23.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:26 AM ET
26 goals
- VANTEL


Oh I think he's a good player. Wouldn't have him on my team though, and I'm betting that Benning won't want him on the Canucks either after what has come out of Boston. If it happens, I promise to eat my words
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
Any way UFAs I would go after are Iggy 3 years 6 mil per
Miller 4 years 5.3 per
Winnik 2 years 1.4 mil


Sedin Sedin Kassian
Jensen Bonino Iggy
Burrows Vey Hansen
Winnik Mathias Dorsett.

Sestitio Higgins
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
Any way UFAs I would go after are Iggy 3 years 6 mil per
Miller 4 years 5.3 per
Winnik 2 years 1.4 mil


Sedin Sedin Kassian
Jensen Bonino Iggy
Burrows Vey Hansen
Winnik Mathias Dorsett.

Sestitio Higgins

- VANTEL


Here's what I came up with haha, ROSTERBATION

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Nicklas Jensen ($0.863m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Zack Kassian ($2.250m)
Daniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Brad Marchand ($4.500m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Bo Horvat ($0.894m) / Linden Vey ($0.900m)
Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Paul Bissonnette ($0.738m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Dan Boyle ($4.500m)
Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($5.000m)
Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m)
BUYOUTS
David Booth ($0.000m)
Keith Ballard ($0.000m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit)
Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,653,333; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,346,667
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:30 AM ET
Oh I think he's a good player. Wouldn't have him on my team though, and I'm betting that Benning won't want him on the Canucks either after what has come out of Boston. If it happens, I promise to eat my words
- eternalcashflow


Higgins, Hansen, & Gaunce

for......

MILAN LUCIC
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: BUF has initiated compliance buyout procedures on Christian Ehrhoff. Not official just yet but BUF has begun the process.

would ya?

- PetrolSexual

I don't think he clears waivers
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: BUF has initiated compliance buyout procedures on Christian Ehrhoff. Not official just yet but BUF has begun the process.

would ya?

- PetrolSexual


Leaving Vancouver was the best decision he's made, financially...

Dudes getting paid lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
Higgins, Hansen, & Gaunce

for......

MILAN LUCIC

- Gullzy



Suuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee
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