hafgod
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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Not long after the contact period started (prior to July 1), TM prob started to realize that nobody good wants to come to Buffalo.
So we buyout the Hoff, (who was hand picked by Pegula, or his daughter, or whomever..), just to soak the cap to get to the floor?
It can't look like a tank or the league may sanction us with draft penaltys? - SuperCat
They should. They could give free tickets this year. Its going to be a lot of really bad hockey |
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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We are the Cleveland Indians of major league movie.. There goes the hot water |
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sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY Joined: 01.14.2008
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I got a ton of crap when I said that besides Leino the other buyout candidate was the Hoff.
My guess is Murray couldn't get anything close to a good enough offer in his eyes to risk dealing with that recapture penalty. It really is a female dog.
He has a plan and a vision for this team, I am okay with this - Stripes77
Agreed. This doesn't happen without valid reasoning. All I can do is trust the guy. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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They should. They could give free tickets this year. Its going to be a lot of really bad hockey - hafgod
Because Ehrhoff was sooooooo good for us last year helping us not finish las...oh wait.
This move is all about the future. |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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Agreed. This doesn't happen without valid reasoning. All I can do is trust the guy. - sambarugh
Murray might be great.. He has done nothing as a gm yet. This is his first gig. Blind faith without a track record is silly |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Agreed. This doesn't happen without valid reasoning. All I can do is trust the guy. - sambarugh
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Agreed. This doesn't happen without valid reasoning. All I can do is trust the guy. - sambarugh
He took a look at his roster and who potentially will be here eventually and realizing if he did his job and drafted the right players that he would have to pay up down the road, a $10 million cap hit for a retired player would kill everything he built. |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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The Sabres have no choice but to overpay a ton of mediocre to outright terrible free agents now, unless they couldn't care less about revenue sharing. |
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Just watch, we'll trade Myers next. |
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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Because Ehrhoff was sooooooo good for us last year helping us not finish las...oh wait.
This move is all about the future. - Stripes77
Its intentional tanking.. I say this all the time 14000 season ticket holders pay for these games. The NHL wants to put us on NBC games for ratiings. We are not just an individual team we are part of a league.... |
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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He took a look at his roster and who potentially will be here eventually and realizing if he did his job and drafted the right players that he would have to pay up down the road, a $10 million cap hit for a retired player would kill everything he built. - Stripes77
Confused.. Isnt his contract front loaded. Real dollars last 4 years are nowhere near that.. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Murray might be great.. He has done nothing as a gm yet. This is his first gig. Blind faith without a track record is silly - hafgod
Blind faith? How was his talent analysis as a scout, its not blind faith, he knows his scouting which is why I think he got this job with the crazy amount of draft picks this team has. If he hits homeruns on 2 players he is going to have to pay them Kane and Toews money down the road, you cant do that if you are already being penalized $10 million |
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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Just watch, we'll trade Myers next. - mhp
We should play weber 30 minutes a night |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Confused.. Isnt his contract front loaded. Real dollars last 4 years are nowhere near that.. - hafgod
Correct but the recapture penalty is that much. |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Correct but the recapture penalty is that much. - dadeadhead
The recapture penalty would only be that much if he retired next year, correct? If so, this is more chicken little than prudent. |
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sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY Joined: 01.14.2008
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Murray might be great.. He has done nothing as a gm yet. This is his first gig. Blind faith without a track record is silly - hafgod
Exactly what other choice do we have but not to trust him? |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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We should play weber 30 minutes a night - hafgod
That would almost certainly guarantee them McDavid or Eichel. That's for sure. |
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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Blind faith? How was his talent analysis as a scout, its not blind faith, he knows his scouting which is why I think he got this job with the crazy amount of draft picks this team has. If he hits homeruns on 2 players he is going to have to pay them Kane and Toews money down the road, you cant do that if you are already being penalized $10 million - Stripes77
He has never been the final word. Its easy to suggest players when the boss says yes or no. Its completely different when your the boss. You took the example in the the league that worked. How about hall and Hopkins.. |
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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We should play weber 30 minutes a night - hafgod
Ugh!! |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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I can't wait to see what washed up has beens or never weres the Sabres are going to overpay in free agency now. They have no choice. |
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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.04.2007
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Exactly what other choice do we have but not to trust him? - sambarugh
You can. I am reluctant to have blind faith after we did that for Darcy |
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jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY Joined: 12.06.2012
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Not yet but it's looking like that. - dadeadhead
Wow that escalated quickly. |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Blind faith? How was his talent analysis as a scout, its not blind faith, he knows his scouting which is why I think he got this job with the crazy amount of draft picks this team has. If he hits homeruns on 2 players he is going to have to pay them Kane and Toews money down the road, you cant do that if you are already being penalized $10 million - Stripes77
Murray has yet to be THE decision maker, though. That's a big part of it. It's no different than a really good offensive or defensive coordinator in football being a disaster as a head coach. It happens often, in every sport. Not saying I think Murray will be, but he's operated his entire career not being the one who's head is potentially on the chopping block. The dynamic changes greatly. He's not just scouting anymore. He's got a whole new administrative world to take care of. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Confused.. Isnt his contract front loaded. Real dollars last 4 years are nowhere near that.. - hafgod
Because his contract was front loaded should he retire before the contract ends Buffalo would be penalized for it. Its the recapture clause. It's the main reason he is being bought out. Another Darcy frank up.
http://www.capgeek.com/recapture-calculator/
Go there and mess around with the Hoff's contract |
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