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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:45 PM ET
1. he played on edmonton
2. he's still relatively young
3. he played in edmonton for year

did i mention he played in that poop hole edmonton?

- 2Real


So do Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and David Perron. He saw similar minutes, even on the PP, as those guys and two of them are younger than he is, and they all had 20 or more points more than Gagner had.

The guy just isn't that great
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:46 PM ET
Who the (frank) turned in NHL 14 GM mode lol. Man this UFA period is getting wicked cool lol
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:46 PM ET
I heard told that could never happen as well.
- Flyers_01


Yes, well. "Never" is.one of those words that can bite you in the ass, sometimes within, what, a week?
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:46 PM ET
So do Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and David Perron. He saw similar minutes, even on the PP, as those guys and two of them are younger than he is, and they all had 20 or more points more than Gagner had.

The guy just isn't that great

- Jsaquella

That's what she did *said* not did
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:47 PM ET
Yes, well. "Never" is.one of those words that can bite you in the ass, sometimes within, what, a week?
- AllInForFlyers


Next thing you know, Nicklas Grossmann will no longer be a top 4 defenseman
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:48 PM ET
So do Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and David Perron. He saw similar minutes, even on the PP, as those guys and two of them are younger than he is, and they all had 20 or more points more than Gagner had.

The guy just isn't that great

- Jsaquella

gagner 37 points 67 games .55 PPG

RNH 56 points 80 games .7 PPG

Gagner isn't that bad
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:49 PM ET
gagner 37 points 67 games .55 PPG

RNH 56 points 80 games .7 PPG

Gagner isn't that bad

- 2Real


Isn't that good, either. He's an average top 9 forward. Nothing special.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:50 PM ET
Next thing you know, Nicklas Grossmann will no longer be a top 4 defenseman
- Jsaquella


And the Flyers don't have cap problems...Hextall's just BSing when he said he's working on that
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:52 PM ET
Isn't that good, either. He's an average top 9 forward. Nothing special.
- Jsaquella


I think it was time for Edmonton to start moving guys out of there...glad they did it and stopped overvaluing players who didn't help them.do anything at all
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:52 PM ET
Isn't that good, either. He's an average top 9 forward. Nothing special.
- Jsaquella

so he's not garbage then
he's making an average salary then

i still believe he's a product of a poopty edmonton team and needs a change of scenery but i don't think arizona is what he needed
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:54 PM ET
so he's not garbage then
he's making an average salary then

i still believe he's a product of a poopty edmonton team and needs a change of scenery but i don't think arizona is what he needed

- 2Real

I don't think anyone need needs AZ LOL
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:55 PM ET
This is interesting, sort of a Game of Thrones feel to it!!


osh Rimer
@JoshRimerHockey
Wow again RT @SWhyno: #TBLightning to buy out Sam Gagner as long as he clears waivers, team said in a tweet that was then deleted.

- opeth_pa

Why, was it seht by ravens?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:55 PM ET
I don't think anyone need needs AZ LOL
- bigmookalookie

steve ott does
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:56 PM ET
so he's not garbage then
he's making an average salary then

i still believe he's a product of a poopty edmonton team and needs a change of scenery but i don't think arizona is what he needed

- 2Real


It might be...He definitely needed a change of scenery, but he's not likely to suddenly turn into a 65 point center, especially in Phoenix. Basically, his age made him a cheaper buyout than Purcell.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:59 PM ET
It might be...He definitely needed a change of scenery, but he's not likely to suddenly turn into a 65 point center, especially in Phoenix. Basically, his age made him a cheaper buyout than Purcell.
- Jsaquella


You keep.on pushing that buyout narrative, you're gonna piss me.right off

For.the final.time, you HB posters need to.stop.making poop up because you don't understand how professional sports work
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:59 PM ET
Edmonton trades Gagner to Tampa Bay Teddy Purcell
- Jsaquella



2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:00 AM ET
It might be...He definitely needed a change of scenery, but he's not likely to suddenly turn into a 65 point center, especially in Phoenix. Basically, his age made him a cheaper buyout than Purcell.
- Jsaquella

fair enough i think gagne on RW in philly would have been killer
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:00 AM ET
You keep.on pushing that buyout narrative, you're gonna piss me.right off

For.the final.time, you HB posters need to.stop.making poop up because you don't understand how professional sports work

- AllInForFlyers

so true . Honestly and integrity are forefront in this profession
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
2 seasons ago yes, this season he was pretty brutal for them
- Marc D



really... i didn't know, always looked good against the flyers
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
fair enough i think gagne on RW in philly would have been killer
- 2Real


The RW depth chart is:

-Voracek
-Simmonds
-Read

Gagner was going to supplant whom? IMO, I think Hexy got this one right.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:03 AM ET
fair enough i think gagne on RW in philly would have been killer
- 2Real


There's just nothing there to suggest he'd be anything besides average. He's had chances and he's been inconsistent and he's not a good two way player at all. All his stats, basic and advanced, are middle of the road for a guy in his spot and useage.

And since it'll get mentioned, his +/- sucks
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:03 AM ET
really... i didn't know, always looked good against the flyers
- -davies-


Purcell effing KILLED us. Glad.that SOB gets.an Edmonton winter for.his reward
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:04 AM ET
Yzerman keeps dumping money.

Nate Thompson to Anaheim for 4th & 7th rounders
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:04 AM ET
The RW depth chart is:

-Voracek
-Simmonds
-Read

Gagner was going to supplant whom? IMO, I think Hexy got this one right.

- ravishingone

didn't voracek and simmonds occasionally play the LW?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:04 AM ET
There's just nothing there to suggest he'd be anything besides average. He's had chances and he's been inconsistent and he's not a good two way player at all. All his stats, basic and advanced, are middle of the road for a guy in his spot and useage.

And since it'll get mentioned, his +/- sucks

- Jsaquella

like i said edmonton
what do you think of the world's greatest player yakupov
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