If he retires before contract is up , Buffalo was screwed
- Winning

He'll be 37 at the end of the deal- Flyers love old D men!

Edit: I get the recapture just wanted to poke fun of our affinity for old D men

What? He has to have trade value. Grossman and a prospect!
- coffee junkie

If interested the Flyers could trade a problem contract to buffalo that the Sabres could buy out, that would save them Money ( with less term and $ owed).......although I think the Erhoff deal was front end loaded so the buyout might not be bad....

Vinny umberger and grossmann for erhoff

If interested the Flyers could trade a problem contract to buffalo that the Sabres could buy out, that would save them Money ( with less term and $ owed).......although I think the Erhoff deal was front end loaded so the buyout might not be bad....
- landros 2

If Erhoff retires early after the Sabres trade him, they get killed with cap penalties.

That's just it: I don't think any of the aforementioned players are NHL-ready, and I am dead set against rushing Morin in particular. Nemeth and Jokipakka seem more NHL-ready than Alt and I don't think Lauridsen is an NHL prospect.

But if Flyers packaged VL, NG and a 2016 second-round pick and got Nemeth in return, I think it would strengthen Dallas as a playoff-worthy team for the second straight year and would give the Flyers both the cap relief they need and also potentially solve the issue of replacing the Grossmann role.

I would also be just as happy to keep NG out of the deal and accept Jokipakka in lieu of Nemeth.
- bmeltzer

I like your armchair moxie!

Buffalo buying out Erhoff. His attractive cap hit is gonna skyrocket
- Jsaquella

I thought I read that players had to go through waivers before being bought out? Is this true, or am I remembering incorrectly?

thanks, Bill ... great post.

Christian Erhoff is going to be a UFA and the Flyers are paying $5mm per year to Andrew MacDonald

Christian Erhoff is going to be a UFA and the Flyers are paying $5mm per year to Andrew MacDonald
- Jsaquella

Andrew MacDonald >

I thought I read that players had to go through waivers before being bought out? Is this true, or am I remembering incorrectly?
- fecondo

i don't know if they do if its one of their compliance buy outs.

edit: or did that window close already?

I thought I read that players had to go through waivers before being bought out? Is this true, or am I remembering incorrectly?
- fecondo

Not if they have a NMC. Briere, Brad Richards, Vinny all had no waivers

If Erhoff retires early after the Sabres trade him, they get killed with cap penalties.
- Jsaquella

When has that ever stopped the Flyers ? He's only 31. Was it the length that brought the penalty ? If they traded Vinny straight up.....they buy Vinny out on 2/3 of 18 mil.....cheaper the 2/3 of 28 mil....

Being as they probably have to eat salary, or deal as high as a 2nd round pick to get rid of Lecalvier, would it make more sense to just buy him out?

That's just it: I don't think any of the aforementioned players are NHL-ready, and I am dead set against rushing Morin in particular. Nemeth and Jokipakka seem more NHL-ready than Alt and I don't think Lauridsen is an NHL prospect.

But if Flyers packaged VL, NG and a 2016 second-round pick and got Nemeth in return, I think it would strengthen Dallas as a playoff-worthy team for the second straight year and would give the Flyers both the cap relief they need and also potentially solve the issue of replacing the Grossmann role.

I would also be just as happy to keep NG out of the deal and accept Jokipakka in lieu of Nemeth.
- bmeltzer

thank you. I'm getting tired of all the people who don't watch his game that think he's NHL ready. I want every Flyers prospect to succeed but it's just not happening for Lauridson.

Flyers should dump MacDonald grossmann vinny and umberger
Trade for Erhoff
Sign Niskannen
Sign other defender

Anyone have an ETA on Pettersson coming to NA?

Flyers should dump MacDonald grossmann vinny and umberger
Trade for Erhoff
Sign Niskannen
Sign other defender
- Winning

The AMac haters are here, he was probably our steadiest D man, along with Coburn after the trade.

Not if they have a NMC. Briere, Brad Richards, Vinny all had no waivers
- Jsaquella

Ok thank you.

So, hypothetically speaking, Ehrhoff could choose to go through waivers since he only has a limited NTC, get claimed (by the flyers lol) and buffalo would still be on the hook for the cap recapture penalties?

Granted, I highly doubt he does that, if it's even possible, why pass up an opportunity to sign with a playoff team for big bucks?

The AMac haters are here, he was probably our steadiest D man, along with Coburn after the trade.
- puckhead17

He's a good defenseman, just not $5M/yr good

Edit: in my opinion, of course. Would you rather have MacD for $5M per or Ehrhoff for $5.5-$6m?

The AMac haters are here, he was probably our steadiest D man, along with Coburn after the trade.
- puckhead17

I thought AMac played a smart 2-way game. I also think he elevated Luke's game some. Glad we have him.

The AMac haters are here, he was probably our steadiest D man, along with Coburn after the trade.
- puckhead17

Worst Corsi on the team

Worst Corsi on the team
- Winning

No one cares

He's a good defenseman, just not $5M/yr good
- fecondo

Is Carle a $5.5 million D man?

Bother were UFA

That's the going rate, he plays a ton of minutes, mobile, blocks shots, not sure how he's considered a whole lot less?

I thought AMac played a smart 2-way game. I also think he elevated Luke's game some. Glad we have him.
- moylander

Exactly!

No one cares
- mochoson

King Corsi cares