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- Winning

Watch Stralman get $5 million because of UFA status.

And there's a guy that 2 teams threw away.

Is Carle a $5.5 million D man?

Bother were UFA

That's the going rate, he plays a ton of minutes, mobile, blocks shots, not sure how he's considered a whole lot less?
- puckhead17

That depends on the role each of them are put in. I thought Carle was a solid 2/3 D-man, while I see MacD as more of a 4/5. $5m is too much money to pay for a 4/5 guy, imo

That depends on the role each of them are put in. I thought Carle was a solid 2/3 D-man, while I see MacD as more of a 4/5. $5m is too much money to pay for a 4/5 guy, imo
- fecondo

I consider him more top 4, than a number ranking in a unit, but see my previous post, Stralman may get $5 million as well, due to his UFA status.
Any guy that can play steady over 20 minutes, and help to steady Luke's game is pretty valuable in your top 4.

Would be interesting to see Ehrhoff sign here. Then trade AMac for a nice LW prospect. Ehrhoff would get a shorter contract so you'd have move options when all these D men we now have in the system start coming up.

Christian Erhoff is going to be a UFA and the Flyers are paying $5mm per year to Andrew MacDonald
- Jsaquella

The AMac hate is disgusting. My god. The guy is an awesome hockey player.

If he was making anywhere from 500-750k less, no one would trying to trade him. What do you think a dman that contributes the way he does is suppose to cost? Pennies?

His contract is a slight overpayment; so what makes you think you wouldn't be saying the same thing 6 months down the line from now about Stralman or Niskanen?

"Trade Niskanen for a 2nd round pick and a bottom pairing guy. Too expensive at 5.75 mill"

- Tomahawk

Yeah, I guess he's supposed to play 25 steady reliable minutes, & make less than Grossmann.

So I was at the draft yesterday and I don't think this got picked up on the telecast....who ever was announcing the Rangers pick at 142....started the announcement by saying the New York ISLANDERS are proud to select Tyler Nanne of Edina High School in Minnesota. This was shown on the video board and the Rangers rep next to him gave him this priceless WTF look.. Funniest story of the draft weekend!

Yeah, I guess he's supposed to play 25 steady reliable minutes, & make less than Grossmann.
- puckhead17

He's not a better player than Ehrhoff or Garrison (or even Gunnarsson)... each of those guys would have been made available this past week... might have been nice to have the cap-space to add them, since they fill our needs better.

The AMac hate is disgusting. My god. The guy is an awesome hockey player.

If he was making anywhere from 500-750k less, no one would trying to trade him. What do you think a dman that contributes the way he does is suppose to cost? Pennies?

His contract is a slight overpayment; so what makes you think you wouldn't be saying the same thing 6 months down the line from now about Stralman or Niskanen?

"Trade Niskanen for a 2nd round pick and a bottom pairing guy. Too expensive at 5.75 mill"
- mochoson

Yes!
And, I'm not saying AMac is Ryan Suter, but jesus.

He's not a better player than Ehrhoff or Garrison (or even Gunnarsson)... each of those guys would have been made available this past week... might have been nice to have the cap-space to add them, since they fill our needs better.
- Tomahawk

in Bold, sorry, that's your opinion, I've read a lot about Garrison, they say he's not worth the $4.6 mill he's making, great shot, big body, too soft.
And Leaf nation had Gunnarsson on a skewer.

Yes!
And, I'm not saying AMac is Ryan Suter, but jesus.
- puckhead17

The "he's a 4/5 guy" stuff is what cracks me up the most, but that's about any player.

I'm still trying to figure out wtf all these numbers are. So if the Flyers don't have a number 1 guy, is Coburn de facto #1 or is he #2? Do we have two #2s? Who's our #3? How many #4's do we have?



So (frank)ing stupid.

Do we have 6 guys that can collectively defend our net well as a unit? That's all I want to know. I don't give a flying (frank) about "numbers'. According to most Grossman is a "5/6" guy, yet he plays almost 20 minutes a game.

I'm still very interested in signing Jiri Sekac and/or Peter Mueller in FA, thoughts?

in Bold, sorry, that's your opinion, I've read a lot about Garrison, they say he's not worth the $4.6 mill he's making, great shot, big body, too soft.
And Leaf nation had Gunnarsson on a skewer.
- puckhead17

Grass greener etc.

So of the Fly boys can clear Vinny and Grossman, who's interested in Error-loft?

I'm still very interested in signing Jiri Sekac and/or Peter Mueller in FA, thoughts?
- mochoson

Hesistant to add Mueller... not a great skater.

I'm still very interested in signing Jiri Sekac and/or Peter Mueller in FA, thoughts?
- mochoson

What's the love for Mueller? Just interested haven't thought about it before?

Yes to Sekac as he would be cheap and low risk/high reward

The "he's a 4/5 guy" stuff is what cracks me up the most, but that's about any player.

I'm still trying to figure out wtf all these numbers are. So if the Flyers don't have a number 1 guy, is Coburn de facto #1 or is he #2? Do we have two #2s? Who's our #3? How many #4's do we have?



So (frank)ing stupid.

Do we have 6 guys that can collectively defend our net well as a unit? That's all I want to know. I don't give a flying (frank) about "numbers'. According to most Grossman is a "5/6" guy, yet he plays almost 20 minutes a game.
- mochoson

Exactly!!
Did anyone know what Mark Howe's Corsi numbers were?
When a team doesn't have a Weber, or Keith, or Pietrangelo, than a solid top 4 that can play the necessary minutes would have to make do.
I remember when Bouwmeester was available in Calgary no one wanted him either.

Grass greener etc.

So of the Fly boys can clear Vinny and Grossman, who's interested in Error-loft?
- coffee junkie

I'm definitely interested. 20 million for 4 years would be my absolute max, and I probably wouldn't give him that unless I was able to move Vinny + Grossman with basically no salary being retained or coming back. Very unlikely that happens.

We can't be googly eyed for every decent FA out there. Were stuck trying to move contracts we don't want for that exact reason. As much as I'd like to add Ehrhoff, I'd expect some degree of buyers remorse if he was signed for more than 3 years.

Hesistant to add Mueller... not a great skater.
- Tomahawk

Not as bad as Lecavalier. I'm hesitant to sign him mainly because he's a righty. I think his skill level is high enough that it accounts for any deficiencies in mobility.

Always loved his shooting ability. He'd probably be close to tops in our forward group in that category.

Grass greener etc.

So of the Fly boys can clear Vinny and Grossman, who's interested in Error-loft?
- coffee junkie

I would rather go for Niskanen, (sorry, I know he will be too much $$$), but after AMac, Coburn, & Streit, we will be hurting for someone who can play at a higher level.
If they can move Gross & buy out Vinny, maybe.
The buy out cap hit would be $1.5 mill a year?
Instead of beating the streets trying to find a taker, and one that he will agree to, eating that much in salary per year anyway, sweetening the pot with a pick, and taking back someone else problem contract, whew, just buy him out.

The Flyers have approximately $24 million committed to their top 6 defensemen next year. Geeze. Oh and Macdonald is overpaid. Severely. He's about a $3.5 mil defenseman. Overpaid by about $2 million a season. I say put Grossmann on waivers and trade Streit for Loui Eriksson. Then go from there.

There's a few cheap guys that could be good. Al Montoya, Chad Johnson, Thomas Greiss. Maybe Devan Dubnyk as a reclamation project signs for a smaller one year deal after finishing the year as a third or fourth goalie.
- Jsaquella

i don't know why you have continued interest in dubnyk. they need someone more capable of handling the job if mason goes down more than a few games. greiss would be my first choice. never been a montoya fan. johnson had success last year, so maybe.

honestly, if the cap weren't an issue, i'd love to take brodeur even at 42, for his final year. i don't care what his numbers say. it won't happen though.

Not as bad as Lecavalier. I'm hesitant to sign him mainly because he's a righty. I think his skill level is high enough that it accounts for any deficiencies in mobility.

Always loved his shooting ability. He'd probably be close to tops in our forward group in that category.
- mochoson

Not much better, either.

He's got great hands, and is a LW, and can play the point on the PP, but there's too many tradeoffs defensively and at evens with him. Not a very competitive guy, either.

Christian Erhoff is going to be a UFA and the Flyers are paying $5mm per year to Andrew MacDonald
- Jsaquella

I know many eye Grossmann as the guy to deal but MacDonald would be my absolute target of moving for player like Erhoff, Phaneuf etc. On this team I'm not so sure he's a five million dollar guy. I also never would have resigned Kimmo Timonen. I love the guy but he's moving on much sooner then later and I'm not so sure we give him much chance at a Cup.

Not much better, either.

He's got great hands, and is a LW, and can play the point on the PP, but there's too many tradeoffs defensively and at evens with him. Not a very competitive guy, either.
- Tomahawk

Led the Swiss league in Goals this year.

I'm certainly taking a flyer (..... ) on him this year on a cheap, 1 year deal. Stick him with Giroux and Jake and see how he does.

He is an upgrade over Hartnell offensively for sure, that's how I look at it.