If you need a break for a few mins from all the trade/FA debates, Paul Stewart's blog today is a fun one.

They hung around looking for a better Defensemen than Carle waiting for Suter to call, when Carle simply moved on. The idea that trading for AMac and then waiting while we looke for better options is the parallel I'm drawing. Bird in the hand situation.
- flyler

Except they wouldn't be asking him to wait around... they'd be moving on b/c he asked for too much $. Same as Leino... sorry, you're not worth that, goodbye... oh hello Jags.

Sorry I whoever I accidentally !'d
- funmaster18

snitchmaster18

One day Bill will quote one of my posts. Touched by an angel.

Edit: Montreal looking to trade Gorges per TSN.

So FA begins at noon tomorrow? Vinny's bonus is due tomorrow? Can they pay him and trade him by say 3 tomorrow? Can he be paid at like 9 a.m. then be traded by 11 so we can sigh awesome Ott at 12:05?

Name this Flyer. Hint: 25 game suspension.


- flyer_nutter

Dunno. Looks Like a goalie from at least 2000s. My guesses would be Roman Checkmanek

Edit: Nope It Jesse Boulerice. Don't even remember the guy.....

Dunno. Looks Like a goalie from at least 2000s. My guesses would be Roman Checkmanek
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Not with that jersey type.

I think that goalie is Party Marty Biron.

Jesse Boulerice?
- PLindbergh31

correct

Jesse Boulerice?
- PLindbergh31

(was on Kesler)

richards had another shortie 5 on 3, umberger hat trick, flyers won that game like 8-3 or something crazy

(was on Kesler)
- Tomahawk

Would have preferred it be on Leighton.
Edit: is that Biron?

(was on Kesler)
- Tomahawk

Damn I assumed by the picture it was a goalie who did it....

If you need a break for a few mins from all the trade/FA debates, Paul Stewart's blog today is a fun one.
- bmeltzer

It was very well written. Thanks for the heads up Bill

Would have preferred it be on Leighton.
Edit: is that Biron?
- PLindbergh31

That's Biron

So... nobody could foresee that teams would use the last of the CBO window to erase recapture risks and bad contracts? Really?
- Tomahawk

Yes really. Nothing was a given. Are you recommending that the Flyer should have sat back and passed up an opportunity to improve the team, for what might happen in the future?

So FA begins at noon tomorrow? Vinny's bonus is due tomorrow? Can they pay him and trade him by say 3 tomorrow? Can he be paid at like 9 a.m. then be traded by 11 so we can sigh awesome Ott at 12:05?
- Deasr1

LOL, Hexy better not (frank)ing sign Ott..... I know its EK but (frank) man you just never know with the Flyers

LOL, Hexy better not (frank)ing sign Ott..... I know its EK but (frank) man you just never know with the Flyers
- bigmookalookie

True Fact

That's Biron
- Streit2ThePoint

The thing that I will always remember about Biron is that the Flyers made him a 3-4 year deal for $4 mill/yr to be the starter and he held out for money before finally settling for a backup job with the Rangers for $1 mill/yr. Holy backfire batman.

Yes really. Nothing was a given. Are you recommending that the Flyer should have sat back and passed up an opportunity to improve the team, for what might happen in the future?
- MJL

You catch on fast.

3 years of Streit at $5.25M per or 6 years of MacDonald at $6M per? Who do you keep?
- jmatchett383

Hell, I like Streit and even I'm willing to concede that just reading that, seeing it in print, made me laugh in my office

It was imperative they sign McDonald because spending a second round pick on a rental by a bubble team would've been bad asset management. Which also most likely gave MacDonald an edge in negotiations.

Much like Chris Pronger knew that Holmgren had to give him whatever it took to sign him long term after he gave up the equivalent of 4 1st round draft picks to acquire him as a 1 year rental. Chris Pronger made more in his golden years than he ever did in his prime.

I'm not saying either were bad players at the time but Holmgren really couldn't really let either walk. Chris Pronger walking after all he gave up for him most likely would've ended his GM tenure right then and there.
- Flyers_01

They didn't want to let them walk. They signed both players to solid deals. They wouldn't have gotten them any cheaper if they were free agents on the open market. It's likely it would've cost them more.

Is he put on waivers at this point? I thought he just becomes a FA tomorrow and we can sign him to what we want? I would be VERY interested in Jamie McBain, way more then I would be Del Zotto.

Trade Vinny for Upshall (-1m)
Trade Upshall for a 5th or 6th rounder to Buffalo (-3.5m)
Trade Grossman for Matt Irwin (-2.5m)
Sign McBain, Chad Johnson
Win the Jiri Sekac sweepstakes and/or sign a bottom 6 guy like Komarov/D. Moore

Read-Giroux-Simmonds
Raffl-Schenn-Voracek
Umberger-Couturier-Sekac
Bellemare-D.Moore-McGinn
Akeson, Rinaldo

Streit-Amac
Coburn-McBain
Timonen-Schenn
-Irwin


- mochoson

looks great to me

With Gleason and volchenkov on the market. Grossman is cemented here

They didn't want to let them walk. They signed both players to solid deals. They wouldn't have gotten them any cheaper if they were free agents on the open market. It's likely it would've cost them more.
- MJL

I really don't think they would've. What do you base your numbers on?

So is it just me or does it fell liket he UFA's this year are just kinda meh?
Lukewarm is the best I can say.
That tells me teams are getting better about evaluating talent and locking them up before they hit FA.