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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:57 PM ET
looks great to me
- 2Real


Why would the sharks trade Irwin for grossman. Well managed teams don't make these trades
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:58 PM ET
Why would the sharks trade Irwin for grossman. Well managed teams don't make these trades
- Just5

the sharks need a player like grossman they have too many offensively minded dmen
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:59 PM ET
Holmgren has a strong jaw. LeCavalier. Cap problems.

Saw the new Transformers yesterday. Might has well have been snorting some donkey ass juice.

- flyer_nutter



Sucked didnt it? Went opening night way to looooooong,dumbass plot and marky mark was the worst option for that role. Should have went with an unknown or a lesser known more believable robot maker single dad living in a cornfield. haa
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
the sharks need a player like grossman they have too many offensively minded dmen
- 2Real


They can go sign Gleason or volchenkov for half of grossmans deal. Unless they want to poop some salary onto the flyers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
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CSNPhilly :

Hextall comes into this NHL draft with a pair of handcuffs on his wrists.

“You could look at it that way or you could look at it the other way where teams might be looking to grab something off you because you do need relief,” Hextall said.

“That is what I kind of put out there. We do need relief and if you have any ideas, give me a shout. It’s not an option, but there are teams out there that need help. We’ll see where it goes.”


The Morning call (this morning) :

"We haven't met with anybody,'' Hextall said Saturday after the NHL Entry Draft ended at the Wells Fargo Center.
"First on my agenda right now is to go back to Skate Zone and take a look at our cap. We have the hard number now, so we've got to look at it and see where we can try to maneuver.''
Without question, that $69 million figure kind of hit the Flyers where it hurts – in the wallet.
"Yeah, it affects every team that's close,'' Hextall said. "It affects us for sure. We've got to find a way to get below it. It was a little lower than we thought and hoped.''


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It might just be me but Hextall sounds a little more concerned about the Flyers salary cap problems than you do.

Let me know when you find a quote where Hextall says they are fine and the Salary Cap is not an issue.

- Flyers_01



There are no direct quotes from Hextall there saying they can't sign any free agents with the cap picture as is. There is a clear disconnect here, on what my position is. For a team like the Flyers, the cap is always going to be an issue. as it is for a lot of teams. My position is the Flyers have some flexibility, with the ability to get more flexibility if they so desire. And there is no reason for the panic that the fan base gets into every off season about the cap. Especially when capgeek is looked at, and t's not understand what is there.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:01 PM ET
Sucked didnt it? Went opening night way to looooooong,dumbass plot and marky mark was the worst option for that role. Should have went with an unknown or a lesser known more believable robot maker single dad living in a cornfield. haa
- EastBeast18


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
@tsnscottcullen: RT @ice_chip: Francis said he recently spoke with Joni Pitkanen's agent. Was told Joni still could not put foot in skate.

Yikes.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yes really. Nothing was a given. Are you recommending that the Flyer should have sat back and passed up an opportunity to improve the team, for what might happen in the future?
- MJL


If tomahawk were GM, I don't think he'd ever be in line for a promotion thinking like that do you?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
And I disagree with the GM's decision to do it. Simple as that. I understand why, and disagree with it. I also disagree that adding MacDonald made the team "much" better.

Yes, there was a degree of improvement. Was it worth the cost? I doubt that.

- Jsaquella



He's going into the first year of the deal, and already there are doubts that it was worth the cost. I'm going to let him actually play more then 25 games or so to come to that conclusion. Rather then form a hasty and premature opinion.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
Harvey Fialkov ‏@hfialkov 9m

Im hearing Panthers have NO interest in Lecavalier. #FlaPanthers

- Jsaquella


I knew that poop was too good to be true -- those four more years have Hextall just effed and effed and effed

Totally terrified that what they send to get him off the roster is gonna make Gagne for Walker look like Zhitnik for Coburn
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
They had years to reinforce the idea that Matt Carle was terrific and he was a perfect part of the mix... AMac was given 6-years after one month in uniform.

Really not sure how the two can be viewed as parallels.

- Tomahawk



Completely misses the point of passing up one opportunity for another to improve the team, that may never come to fruition. Suter and Weber were part of that equation.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:05 PM ET
In the Pronger case he was getting a guy still playing at a near Norris worthy level, in MacDonald's case, he was getting a fairly easy to replace guy.
- Jsaquella



Right now, who can they get to replace MacDonald fairly easy?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
I knew that poop was too good to be true -- those four more years have Hextall just effed and effed and effed

Totally terrified that what they send to get him off the roster is gonna make Gagne for Walker look like Zhitnik for Coburn

- AllInForFlyers

The more I think about the more I think he is back with the team for the season. Maybe a TDL move to a team that needs scoring and has some injuries to main guys.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:07 PM ET
Gord Miller @GMillerTSN · 20m
Every year at this time, defensive defencemen get bought out, and then on July 1st, teams shell out huge $ for other defensive defencemen.

Gord Miller @GMillerTSN · 19m
I like Igor Larionov's theory: "The best defence is when we have the puck."

Gord Miller @GMillerTSN · 8m
I know that being a GM is a hard job, but when you look at good teams, they simply don't pay $3m+ for Dmen who don't pass the puck well.



- Tomahawk


Eff you, Gord Miller...buying people out has nothing to do with how they're playing. It has to do with choices and roster evolution. No mistakes have been made! None, damn you!

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
If tomahawk were GM, I don't think he'd ever be in line for a promotion thinking like that do you?
- Just5



I wanna be the Grand Poobah of the Carnival... weeee!
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
I knew that poop was too good to be true -- those four more years have Hextall just effed and effed and effed

Totally terrified that what they send to get him off the roster is gonna make Gagne for Walker look like Zhitnik for Coburn

- AllInForFlyers

I hope this isn't true but man if it is the Flyers are (frank)ed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
You catch on fast.
- Tomahawk



That way someone can be first in line to rip them when the opportunity they waited for went somewhere else, and the team is stuck with a big hole!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:10 PM ET
Ek saying Briere traded? Anyone got info?
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:10 PM ET
Right now, who can they get to replace MacDonald fairly easy?
- MJL

Well for the 5mm a season I would say look at your org to replaced him or look for a low cost option. With the cap and all those deals we signed that 5mm to Amac has the Flyers hands tied
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
I really don't think they would've. What do you base your numbers on?
- Flyers_01



Supply and demand of the NHL salary market. If MacDonald was going into free agency tomorrow, he's be in high demand. And teams bidding against one another would drive up the price. As MacDonald's agent stated, he took a little less then he could've gotten on the open market to sign with the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
I really don't think they would've. What do you base your numbers on?
- Flyers_01



Supply and demand of the NHL salary market. If MacDonald was going into free agency tomorrow, he's be in high demand. And teams bidding against one another would drive up the price. As MacDonald's agent stated, he took a little less then he could've gotten on the open market to sign with the Flyers.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
Can we move Vinny to MTL for Gorges and Briere and then flip one of our dman that is easier to trade for some picks?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
Eff you, Gord Miller...buying people out has nothing to do with how they're playing. It has to do with choices and roster evolution. No mistakes have been made! None, damn you!


- AllInForFlyers



yet another misuse of mismanagement
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
Can we move Vinny to MTL for Gorges and Briere and then flip one of our dman that is easier to trade for some picks?
- J35Bacher

Briere to Col. E5
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
Ek saying Briere traded? Anyone got info?
- J35Bacher


Nada
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