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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:31 PM ET
He had 18 goals and 43 points. Anaheim expects to get him for less then 1.05M?
- MJL


Exactly my point. His point's per/60 is off the charts. Him not getting a qualifying offer to me is just nutty.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:32 PM ET
So what happens if they go up against the cap ceiling and he decides to accept the QO in, say, mid-December?
- jmatchett383



QO expires at some point.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:32 PM ET
We need to move on and let go of this whole AMac was a bad signing thing.
we can't predict the future and a mere 2 weeks ago, everyone was talking about how there were going to be no decent D men available this summer and Niskanen was going to get a ridiculous amount of money because of it.
And I am willing to bet that some of these things have happened because the cap is below what was expected which has had major ripple effects.
Lets think about the opposite scenario for a moment. Suppose they didn't sign AMac and not of these other guys were available. It wouldn't be inconceivable that he would have gotten 6M a year if the Flyers waited.

What we should be more upset about is that we couldnt move VL to colorado for PA
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:32 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if Streit might be the odd man out on the blueline. With Kimmo coming back for another year, he would QB the 1st PP unit. AMac would get those duties on the 2nd PP, and unlike Streit would get time on the PK. Even though Streit is a 35+ contract, he still is a very effective point man on the PP who could still get 50 points in a season if placed on someone's first unit. Streit gets sheltered on 5 on 5, but he's not Andy Delmore either.

Much like Hartnell was a possibility to being traded, but never thought as a serious candidate. I can Streit moved along this offseason.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:32 PM ET
Exactly my point. His point's per/60 is off the charts. Him not getting a qualifying offer to me is just nutty.
- mochoson


Who are we talking about?
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:33 PM ET
No, but it would limit the return they'd get even more than it would be right now. If they're gonna do that, I'd prefer they trade him before the start of UFA period and then go in guns blazing.
- jmatchett383




wow.... ufa period starts in a few hours.... your going to let Grossman still on the roster not going after Ehrhoff. Doesn't make sense to me.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if Streit might be the odd man out on the blueline. With Kimmo coming back for another year, he would QB the 1st PP unit. AMac would get those duties on the 2nd PP, and unlike Streit would get time on the PK. Even though Streit is a 35+ contract, he still is a very effective point man on the PP who could still get 50 points in a season if placed on someone's first unit. Streit gets sheltered on 5 on 5, but he's not Andy Delmore either.

Much like Hartnell was a possibility to being traded, but never thought as a serious candidate. I can Streit moved along this offseason.

- ravishingone


I wouldn't be surprised if any defenseman, other than Kimmo and Coburn, was traded.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 4m
Lamoriello: Devils made Fayne "a good offer" & still want him back, but "might not be able to compete with the numbers that are out there."

Losing him will definitely make them worse
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
Who are we talking about?
- PhillySportsGuy


Matthieu Perreault
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:35 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if Streit might be the odd man out on the blueline. With Kimmo coming back for another year, he would QB the 1st PP unit. AMac would get those duties on the 2nd PP, and unlike Streit would get time on the PK. Even though Streit is a 35+ contract, he still is a very effective point man on the PP who could still get 50 points in a season if placed on someone's first unit. Streit gets sheltered on 5 on 5, but he's not Andy Delmore either.

Much like Hartnell was a possibility to being traded, but never thought as a serious candidate. I can Streit moved along this offseason.

- ravishingone


Who would take Streit? When Timonen retires next year, are you comfortable with Amac being our best offensive defenseman/ powerplay quarterback?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:37 PM ET
hammarby offer coming soon
- jmatchett383


oh, jfc, none of us want that. i'd like to get out of tonight's pick up skate with less than 7 goals against in an hour and a half.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:37 PM ET
So what happens if they go up against the cap ceiling and he decides to accept the QO in, say, mid-December?
- jmatchett383


There's a deadline for accepting the offer. Not sure when it is though.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:37 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if Streit might be the odd man out on the blueline. With Kimmo coming back for another year, he would QB the 1st PP unit. AMac would get those duties on the 2nd PP, and unlike Streit would get time on the PK. Even though Streit is a 35+ contract, he still is a very effective point man on the PP who could still get 50 points in a season if placed on someone's first unit. Streit gets sheltered on 5 on 5, but he's not Andy Delmore either.

Much like Hartnell was a possibility to being traded, but never thought as a serious candidate. I can Streit moved along this offseason.

- ravishingone

We're tired of watching shorthanded break aways let kimmo catch his breath on the pp.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:38 PM ET
Just to play against the Rangers
- PhillySportsGuy


i'd just try to permanently injure msl.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:38 PM ET
Matthieu Perreault
- mochoson


They sheltered him quite a bit. I'm surprised they didn't qualify him though. At the very least, they could have traded him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:38 PM ET
Who would take Streit? When Timonen retires next year, are you comfortable with Amac being our best offensive defenseman/ powerplay quarterback?
- aflyerpower8



Garth Snow might want him back lol... especially after the way they were spurned by Dan Boyle.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:38 PM ET
We need to move on and let go of this whole AMac was a bad signing thing.
we can't predict the future and a mere 2 weeks ago, everyone was talking about how there were going to be no decent D men available this summer and Niskanen was going to get a ridiculous amount of money because of it.
And I am willing to bet that some of these things have happened because the cap is below what was expected which has had major ripple effects.
Lets think about the opposite scenario for a moment. Suppose they didn't sign AMac and not of these other guys were available. It wouldn't be inconceivable that he would have gotten 6M a year if the Flyers waited.

What we should be more upset about is that we couldnt move VL to colorado for PA

- nails


The latter is about term.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:39 PM ET
Nonsense. If we didn't do that, we'd never be able to place David Laliberte and Harry Zolnercziek in their proper places of NHL glory.
- jmatchett383


harry z is still blazing his trail with the pens.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:39 PM ET
i'd just try to permanently injure msl.
- hammarby31


Just fall on him. Be like squashing an ant
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:39 PM ET
*thats the (frank)ing rangers

Thanks

- funmaster18


stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
Who would take Streit? When Timonen retires next year, are you comfortable with Amac being our best offensive defenseman/ powerplay quarterback?
- aflyerpower8

i guess by then ghost would get a fair look at the task
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
Who would take Streit? When Timonen retires next year, are you comfortable with Amac being our best offensive defenseman/ powerplay quarterback.
- aflyerpower8


I believe the PP runs mainly through G on the half boards. I'm not sure having a superior point man on the first unit is vital. Kimmo is more of a distributor, then a booming shot from the point. I could see Ghost being groomed for that role in two years.

Also, I don't think Hexy would be done remodeling the blueline by simply trading Streit. My hope would be to bring in a comparable d-man at a lower rate and term, or swing for the fences to acquire a younger, promising two-way d-man. With events during the draft, obviously they are still looking for a potential stud on the blueline and willing to use significant assets to acquire one.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if Streit might be the odd man out on the blueline. With Kimmo coming back for another year, he would QB the 1st PP unit. AMac would get those duties on the 2nd PP, and unlike Streit would get time on the PK. Even though Streit is a 35+ contract, he still is a very effective point man on the PP who could still get 50 points in a season if placed on someone's first unit. Streit gets sheltered on 5 on 5, but he's not Andy Delmore either.

Much like Hartnell was a possibility to being traded, but never thought as a serious candidate. I can Streit moved along this offseason.

- ravishingone


I would trade Streit to go after Ehrhoff.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:41 PM ET
harry z is still blazing his trail with the pens.
- hammarby31

probably one of the best fourth line solutions within the organization. i want to vomit and then consume it again after typing that
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:41 PM ET
Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 4m
Lamoriello: Devils made Fayne "a good offer" & still want him back, but "might not be able to compete with the numbers that are out there."

Losing him will definitely make them worse

- PhillySportsGuy


i'm all for anything that makes them worse.
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