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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:18 PM ET
Do you think the Preds were like "Hey we'll take VL. Wait, he has 4 more years left. nvm"
- PhillySportsGuy


Exactly what I was thinking. How far along did the trade discussion get before Nashville realized he has 4 year remaining? Pretty funny if that's what Pannacio actually said.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 6:19 PM ET
Exactly what I was thinking. How far along did the trade discussion get before Nashville realized he has 4 year remaining? Pretty funny if that's what Pannacio actually said.
- MJL


@tpanotchCSN
Flyers almost had a deal worked out with NSH to trade Lecavalier but Preds dont want his cap hit for 4 yrs
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 30 @ 6:27 PM ET
4 MORE YEARS

4 MORE YEARS

4 MORE YEARS
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:29 PM ET
@tpanotchCSN
Flyers almost had a deal worked out with NSH to trade Lecavalier but Preds dont want his cap hit for 4 yrs

- aflyerpower8


Flyers tried to sneak that by Nashville huh? But they caught on just in time! LOL.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 6:30 PM ET
Is that what Pannacio actually said, word for word?
- MJL


Flyers almost had a deal worked out with NSH to trade Lecavalier but Preds dont want his cap hit for 4 yrs....Per Panotch word for word
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:33 PM ET
4 MORE YEARS

4 MORE YEARS

4 MORE YEARS

- Giroux_Is_God


Vinny is the new FDR
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:36 PM ET
Vinny is the new FDR
- Jsaquella

(frank)ing Da Roster?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:36 PM ET
Flyers tried to sneak that by Nashville huh? But they caught on just in time! LOL.
- MJL


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:38 PM ET

- funmaster18



The only thing I can figure that makes sense is the Preds were looking for retained salary to lessen the cap hit.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:38 PM ET
Flyers tried to sneak that by Nashville huh? But they caught on just in time! LOL.
- MJL

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:38 PM ET
(frank)ing Da Roster?
- Deasr1


Yarp
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:39 PM ET
The only thing I can figure that makes sense is the Preds were looking for retained salary to lessen the cap hit.
- MJL


That would be my guess as well. Tim found a way to spin it, tho.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:40 PM ET
That would be my guess as well. Tim found a way to spin it, tho.
- funmaster18


As did a few others
TonyBazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:41 PM ET
A lot of people are misunderstood about the Flyers potential interest in Steve Ott. Personally, I'd be stoked if they signed him. On this Flyers team, he wouldn't be playing with Giroux and Voracek. He'd be playing as the Flyers 9th forward and go up and down the lineup as needed. I think he would be a great fit with Read and Couturier. They need a consistent linemate. Akeson and Downie aren't the a good fit for that role in my opinion. Ott is. He won't be expected to be a 20 goal scorer or a go to guy offensively, but he does have some offensive upside. He is a physical presence, gets under opponents' skin, can play left wing or center, can take face offs, works hard and kills penalties. He was horribly misused in Buffalo playing on their top line, powerplay time and was team captain, (which should also tell you something about his work ethic). If he's a bust with Couturier and Read, then put him on the fourth line with Rinaldo. I've heard Jody Shelly comparisons, but those are ridiculous to me. I see the potential negatives he brings as well. But to me he's worth the gamble to put him in the 9th forward/4th line role. And where's the toughness in the lineup now anyways besides Simmonds and Rinaldo? They could definitely use Ott.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:42 PM ET
Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 4m
Lamoriello: Devils made Fayne "a good offer" & still want him back, but "might not be able to compete with the numbers that are out there."

Losing him will definitely make them worse

- PhillySportsGuy


hmmm..and keeping vinny makes us worse. go figure.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:45 PM ET
A lot of people are misunderstood about the Flyers potential interest in Steve Ott. Personally, I'd be stoked if they signed him. On this Flyers team, he wouldn't be playing with Giroux and Voracek. He'd be playing as the Flyers 9th forward and go up and down the lineup as needed. I think he would be a great fit with Read and Couturier. They need a consistent linemate. Akeson and Downie aren't the a good fit for that role in my opinion. Ott is. He won't be expected to be a 20 goal scorer or a go to guy offensively, but he does have some offensive upside. He is a physical presence, gets under opponents' skin, can play left wing or center, can take face offs, works hard and kills penalties. He was horribly misused in Buffalo playing on their top line, powerplay time and was team captain, (which should also tell you something about his work ethic). If he's a bust with Couturier and Read, then put him on the fourth line with Rinaldo. I've heard Jody Shelly comparisons, but those are ridiculous to me. I see the potential negatives he brings as well. But to me he's worth the gamble to put him in the 9th forward/4th line role. And where's the toughness in the lineup now anyways besides Simmonds and Rinaldo? They could definitely use Ott.
- TonyBazz


I agree, and wouldn't mind seeing Ott with the Flyers. But it's about cap hit and the cost. I think he's going to want to much money and term for my taste.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:46 PM ET
I agree, and wouldn't mind seeing Ott with the Flyers. But it's about cap hit and the cost. I think he's going to want to much money and term for my taste.
- MJL

Unpossible!!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:47 PM ET

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724659

I am probably Leight, but why would they qualify Gus. Doesnt this tie up money until the start of the season?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724659

I am probably Leight, but why would they qualify Gus. Doesnt this tie up money until the start of the season?

- MBFlyerfan

1 Mill-ish I believe
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724659

I am probably Leight, but why would they qualify Gus. Doesnt this tie up money until the start of the season?

- MBFlyerfan


It does, but it allows them to hold his rights if he decides to return to N America
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:52 PM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724659

I am probably Leight, but why would they qualify Gus. Doesnt this tie up money until the start of the season?

- MBFlyerfan


It does, but I would've let him walk.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
The only thing I can figure that makes sense is the Preds were looking for retained salary to lessen the cap hit.
- MJL


Part of the negotiating processing, leave it up to Panotch to spin it like they were so close, but that hurdle of term just got in the way, darn!!!! Journalism, at its' finest.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
A lot of people are misunderstood about the Flyers potential interest in Steve Ott. Personally, I'd be stoked if they signed him. On this Flyers team, he wouldn't be playing with Giroux and Voracek. He'd be playing as the Flyers 9th forward and go up and down the lineup as needed. I think he would be a great fit with Read and Couturier. They need a consistent linemate. Akeson and Downie aren't the a good fit for that role in my opinion. Ott is. He won't be expected to be a 20 goal scorer or a go to guy offensively, but he does have some offensive upside. He is a physical presence, gets under opponents' skin, can play left wing or center, can take face offs, works hard and kills penalties. He was horribly misused in Buffalo playing on their top line, powerplay time and was team captain, (which should also tell you something about his work ethic). If he's a bust with Couturier and Read, then put him on the fourth line with Rinaldo. I've heard Jody Shelly comparisons, but those are ridiculous to me. I see the potential negatives he brings as well. But to me he's worth the gamble to put him in the 9th forward/4th line role. And where's the toughness in the lineup now anyways besides Simmonds and Rinaldo? They could definitely use Ott.
- TonyBazz

ott definitely has use. but his deal will be really crappy
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
It does, but I would've let him walk.
- MJL

How far? He's little and it's scary out there?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 6:57 PM ET
Flyers tried to sneak that by Nashville huh? But they caught on just in time! LOL.
- MJL


Apparently, Capgeek works in Nashville too
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