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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:41 PM ET
The problem with the Rangers is that you have to beat them 2-1 every game. The Flyers and Penguins just don't have the two-way ability and depth to keep the game low scoring. Both teams want to trade chances.
- PhillySportsGuy


oh i can tell you the problem with that (frank)ing joke of a team/style when the weather gets warm, but i feel as though ive subjected you to enough whining about them, however justifiable.

regardless, you have a team down 3 1 and you should finish. no excuses. they (frank)ed up, and it cost them. i really dont know if they would have beaten the kings. but i definitely would have taken them over MTL.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
Josh Gorges ?
Another 4 year long contract at about 4 mill per year ?
WHY ?
Or is it just Ek E2 dribble

- Steelmanpa


I hope its the second. I suppose he would be an upgrade on Grossmann if we wanted to trade him, but at what cost?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:45 PM ET
true. but his deal is realistically going to be about a mil or so less than letangs. i like him, just as you do. i think we see a lot of similar things to value in his game. but for that price, i dont know.

maybe a team like COL. in which it would pay a bit to overpay in order to fill an area that they REALLY need to take that next step.

come to think of it, the flyers as well

- stayinthefnnet


Honestly, I can see the Flyers doing nothing but getting a 7th dman and 4th line player. They have been spending like crazy every year, so now they will over correct and not pursue ANY free agents!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:46 PM ET
oh i can tell you the problem with that (frank)ing joke of a team/style when the weather gets warm, but i feel as though ive subjected you to enough whining about them, however justifiable.

regardless, you have a team down 3 1 and you should finish. no excuses. they (frank)ed up, and it cost them. i really dont know if they would have beaten the kings. but i definitely would have taken them over MTL.

- stayinthefnnet


Would Megna be the one running Price in this scenario?
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:46 PM ET
Honestly, I can see the Flyers doing nothing but getting a 7th dman and 4th line player. They have been spending like crazy every year, so now they will over correct and not pursue ANY free agents!
- PhillySportsGuy


One can only hope based on the contracts given so far.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:46 PM ET
Honestly, I can see the Flyers doing nothing but getting a 7th dman and 4th line player. They have been spending like crazy every year, so now they will over correct and not pursue ANY free agents!
- PhillySportsGuy


Hey, I like Dominic Moore to replace Vinny. I think that would be a very good signing to help the transition of Laughton.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:47 PM ET
Honestly, I can see the Flyers doing nothing but getting a 7th dman and 4th line player. They have been spending like crazy every year, so now they will over correct and not pursue ANY free agents!
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think they're going to be after any high priced top free agents. But I think some moves will be made.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:47 PM ET
Honestly, I can see the Flyers doing nothing but getting a 7th dman and 4th line player. They have been spending like crazy every year, so now they will over correct and not pursue ANY free agents!
- PhillySportsGuy

still, something sound about the mindset of not spending just to spend.

i weigh the player, his expected role on the team/his ability to fill that role, and the contract all together. seldom do i find free agent signings anymore coming out to "yes, this is good for the team" when evaluated via such a totality of circumstances.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:47 PM ET
Hey, I like Dominic Moore to replace Vinny. I think that would be a very good signing to help the transition of Laughton.
- ravishingone


If the deal was short (i.e. 1 year), then I would like it.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:48 PM ET
Would Megna be the one running Price in this scenario?
- PhillySportsGuy


let em have price. i still take the pens in that series. makes the (frank) up job all the more frustrating.

id like Megna to get a look for the fourth line next year, regardless of jokes
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
I don't if it's hexy's way of doing things but haven't seen the flyers linked to anyone this year...very interesting to say the least
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
Hey, I like Dominic Moore to replace Vinny. I think that would be a very good signing to help the transition of Laughton.
- ravishingone


I'd rather them underspend than overspend. I still think they have some glaring holes though. They created another by dealing Hartnell.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
still, something sound about the mindset of not spending just to spend.

i weigh the player, his expected role on the team/his ability to fill that role, and the contract all together. seldom do i find free agent signings anymore coming out to "yes, this is good for the team" when evaluated via such a totality of circumstances.

- stayinthefnnet


Not the ones signed early, but guys who have not signed late in free agency can be had for bargains. An example would be Mason Raymond.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:50 PM ET
I don't think they're going to be after any high priced top free agents. But I think some moves will be made.
- MJL


I'm even ok with moves that may not help in the short term, but will help in the long term. A deal like VL for Upshall would be fine by me.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:50 PM ET
proof?
- 2Real

E60
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:52 PM ET
still, something sound about the mindset of not spending just to spend.

i weigh the player, his expected role on the team/his ability to fill that role, and the contract all together. seldom do i find free agent signings anymore coming out to "yes, this is good for the team" when evaluated via such a totality of circumstances.

- stayinthefnnet


I don't think it's worth going after the big names on the market unless they are absolute top tier. A guy like Suter is invaluable. He could make $10M per year and still be worth it.

I don't mind "overpaying" if the guy is a huge difference maker.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:53 PM ET
let em have price. i still take the pens in that series. makes the (frank) up job all the more frustrating.

id like Megna to get a look for the fourth line next year, regardless of jokes

- stayinthefnnet


He better be willing to fight someone on the Flyers next year
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:53 PM ET
I don't think it's worth going after the big names on the market unless they are absolute top tier. A guy like Suter is invaluable. He could make $10M per year and still be worth it.

I don't mind "overpaying" if the guy is a huge difference maker.

- PhillySportsGuy

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 9:54 PM ET
All stuff you don't need to rush and sign on day 1 of free agency.
- ob18


This.

My idea of a fun July 1 is watching every other team over-spend on this mediocre UFA class... and the Flyers kicking back and waiting for the value buys to surface late-July/August.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:54 PM ET
He better be willing to fight someone on the Flyers next year
- PhillySportsGuy

for some reason i dont really see him being a part of the NHL roster.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:55 PM ET
Not the ones signed early, but guys who have not signed late in free agency can be had for bargains. An example would be Mason Raymond.
- aflyerpower8

that is true. the trick is to find this years raymond. as the actual mason raymond will surely be looking to parlay last years production into a nice raise
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:57 PM ET

- aflyerpower8


I'm giving your a
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:05 PM ET
I hate the Braves and their racist chant
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:08 PM ET
This.

My idea of a fun July 1 is watching every other team over-spend on this mediocre UFA class... and the Flyers kicking back and waiting for the value buys to surface late-July/August.

- Tomahawk


Homer's greatest gift
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
Homer's greatest gift
- Jsaquella


To be fair, Homer did most of his work before FA
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