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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:03 PM ET
I don't want 2 lines with questionable speed in this system. Plus we all know that the Sedins getting split up is highly unlikely, no point in denying it.
- Nucker101

Under AV and Gillis it would never happen. There are new sheriffs in town .What does JB and WD owe the Sedins.

Their jobs rely on the success of the team, not on whether Hank and Danny are happy.

If we have another year like last year fans will be calling for their heads. They need to put out the best team every nite . Vancouver Canucks ,not Vancouver Sedins.

If they are in fact our best two players then first line it is. If one or both are not then cut back .
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:06 PM ET
Under AV and Gillis it would never happen. There are new sheriffs in town .What does JB and WD owe the Sedins.

Their jobs rely on the success of the team, not on whether Hank and Danny are happy.

If we have another year like last year fans will be calling for their heads. They need to put out the best team every nite . Vancouver Canucks ,not Vancouver Sedins.

If they are in fact our best two players then first line it is. If one or both are not then cut back .

- VANTEL


The absolute dumbest thing Desjardins could do is split up the two players with the most chemistry in the league... ESPECIALLY since they play an east/west game on a north/south team. What the Sedins need is a power hitter in the 5 hole to deter IBBs (baseball reference for those who are lost after reading my drunken paragraph thurr)
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:06 PM ET
Under AV and Gillis it would never happen. There are new sheriffs in town .What does JB and WD owe the Sedins.

Their jobs rely on the success of the team, not on whether Hank and Danny are happy.

If we have another year like last year fans will be calling for their heads. They need to put out the best team every nite . Vancouver Canucks ,not Vancouver Sedins.

If they are in fact our best two players then first line it is. If one or both are not then cut back .

- VANTEL


This

I love the twins but if either isn't performing I don't care cut the minutes. You cant go all torts and give danny and burr all that ice time if they aren't scoring its absolutely ridiculous. Obviously Danny can score as he won a title and you don't just forget how to do it but since keith clobbered him he just hasn't been right. I guess well see this year.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:09 PM ET
The absolute dumbest thing Desjardins could do is split up the two players with the most chemistry in the league... ESPECIALLY since they play an east/west game on a north/south team. What the Sedins need is a power hitter in the 5 hole to deter IBBs (baseball reference for those who are lost after reading my drunken paragraph thurr)
- DrChristianTroy

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:10 PM ET
The absolute dumbest thing Desjardins could do is split up the two players with the most chemistry in the league... ESPECIALLY since they play an east/west game on a north/south team. What the Sedins need is a power hitter in the 5 hole to deter IBBs (baseball reference for those who are lost after reading my drunken paragraph thurr)
- DrChristianTroy


No the absolute dumbest thing could be to go out and waste a lot of time,trying to rekindle that fire of 2011.

Our top line with the best chemistry in the league got 35 goals .that is pathetic. We were second lowest to scoring only Buffalo was worst. Why are we trying to protect that?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:12 PM ET
No the absolute dumbest thing could be to go out and waste a lot of time,trying to rekindle that fire of 2011.

Our top line with the best chemistry in the league got 35 goals .that is pathetic. We were second lowest to scoring only Buffalo was worst. Why are we trying to protect that?

- VANTEL

Hi!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:13 PM ET
Hi!!
- Marwood

Welcome back Brother
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:13 PM ET
No the absolute dumbest thing could be to go out and waste a lot of time,trying to rekindle that fire of 2011.

Our top line with the best chemistry in the league got 35 goals .that is pathetic. We were second lowest to scoring only Buffalo was worst. Why are we trying to protect that?

- VANTEL


Because we'd rather have one line that doesn't fit our coach's style rather than spread it out to 2. Let them do there thing and have the other 3 lines play North/South and off of the rush.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:14 PM ET
The absolute dumbest thing Desjardins could do is split up the two players with the most chemistry in the league... ESPECIALLY since they play an east/west game on a north/south team. What the Sedins need is a power hitter in the 5 hole to deter IBBs (baseball reference for those who are lost after reading my drunken paragraph thurr)
- DrChristianTroy

When one is not in the line up they seem to elevate their game. When both in the line up not on the same line they stink. I think they need a fresh face to play with them. Burrows was great with them but he can best be utilized elsewhere. I think Willie can coach his game and still play to his players strengths.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 30 @ 9:14 PM ET
No the absolute dumbest thing could be to go out and waste a lot of time,trying to rekindle that fire of 2011.

Our top line with the best chemistry in the league got 35 goals .that is pathetic. We were second lowest to scoring only Buffalo was worst. Why are we trying to protect that?

- VANTEL


You always neglect to mention that all the top guys were injured on and off all year. But most importantly, that the whole season was a disaster for EVERYONE, both statistically and organizationally.

Coaching: disaster
Injuries: significant impact
Misc: Luongo/Schneider distraction
Organization: questionable moves and poor handling of various issues that arose.

As always, you make it seem like Hank and Danny were the only (or the most impacting) problems and that they are solely responsible for the team's succeses
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:17 PM ET
You always neglect to mention that all the top guys were injured on and off all year. But most importantly, that the whole season was a disaster for EVERYONE, both statistically and organizationally.

Coaching: disaster
Injuries: significant impact
Misc: Luongo/Schneider distraction
Organization: questionable moves and poor handling of various issues that arose.

- Zogg


Here we go........
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:17 PM ET
Im sure all lines will be mixed and Im willing to bet with a combo of miller and lack we get excellent goaltending. Mix in willie Desjardins allowing our offensive guys to do their thing and I believe we are one big time center away from contending all be it for a year or 2. Ryan Johansen is definitely the guy to try and grab

Sedin
Johansen
Bonino
Horvat
Matthias
Mcaan

great looking depth now and future
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:17 PM ET
Because we'd rather have one line that doesn't fit our coach's style rather than spread it out to 2. Let them do there thing and have the other 3 lines play North/South and off of the rush.
- Nucker101

Gretzky / Kurri got split up when they aged
Hull and Oates got Split up
Chi are moving Sharp to go in a different direction Neals gone but heaven forbid we move a Sedin
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 30 @ 9:18 PM ET
Here we go........
- Nucker101


golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:20 PM ET
I don't think Miller signing here is a terrible idea. Not my first choice, but I am not GM of the Canucks either. I am more worried about the term just because of Miller's history with contracts. He was paid A LOT of money prior to being bought out and even if he is aging it doesn't mean he says, "Sure I'll take a pay cut to not win a cup".

I am hoping for somewhere around 2-3 years @ 4.5mil per. In all honesty, if I was GM I would be more worried about making a better second line first though. 2nd worst GF next to Buffalo? That was the most vomit worthy stat imo.

We have some kids that want to play here and now all we need is them to score but I don't want to put everything behind that. At least one vet would be nice. Iggy would be the best but I highly doubt he signs here. I hope he does considering he scored 60 points last year and has played almost every game in the last 8 seasons. Man is a beast. His age doesn't scare me one bit unless they throw a big term at him but I doubt Benning is that dumb.

- WhatTheNuck


I agree that we need to score goals. However, the best way to win when you struggle to score is preventing them. I also agree on term, by far my biggest concern. I do think that Miller is interested in Vancouver because his wife is an actor, which might make him cede on dollars and term.

BTW, he wasn't bought out his contract ended.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:20 PM ET
You always neglect to mention that all the top guys were injured on and off all year. But most importantly, that the whole season was a disaster for EVERYONE, both statistically and organizationally.

Coaching: disaster
Injuries: significant impact
Misc: Luongo/Schneider distraction
Organization: questionable moves and poor handling of various issues that arose.

As always, you make it seem like Hank and Danny were the only (or the most impacting) problems and that they are solely responsible for the team's succeses

- Zogg


Excuses are for losers that is why I don't use them .I seen two different coaches and when Daniel was in the lineup he was very underwhelming. 1 or 0 shots a night . It was a miracle the nights he had three shots on net even if they did come from the blueline
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:21 PM ET
Gretzky / Kurri got split up when they aged
Hull and Oates got Split up
Chi are moving Sharp to go in a different direction Neals gone but heaven forbid we move a Sedin

- VANTEL



What? I thought we were discussing lineups/signings?



The return for the Sedins wouldn't be as great as you'd think. They have a big cap hit together and would likely only be willing to go to a few teams. Buyer's market just like Kesler.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:21 PM ET
Gretzky / Kurri got split up when they aged
Hull and Oates got Split up
Chi are moving Sharp to go in a different direction Neals gone but heaven forbid we move a Sedin

- VANTEL


They're twins, it's kinda different.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:23 PM ET
They're twins, it's kinda different.
- Canuckleafer



Here we go....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:23 PM ET
They're twins, it's kinda different.
- Canuckleafer



That is why I never liked having both. If I could I would kick Burke righ in his big hairy beanbag
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:24 PM ET
What? I thought we were discussing lineups/signings?



The return for the Sedins wouldn't be as great as you'd think. They have a big cap hit together and would likely only be willing to go to a few teams. Buyer's market just like Kesler.

- Nucker101


Why do you have to move two? Hank has been solid
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:25 PM ET
Gretzky / Kurri got split up when they aged
Hull and Oates got Split up
Chi are moving Sharp to go in a different direction Neals gone but heaven forbid we move a Sedin

- VANTEL



Hall and Oates you mean. Whenever Im feelin down about the canucks I just dial the callin oats hotline at 7192662837. You are all welcome and ill save you the trouble just press 2
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:25 PM ET
Why do you have to move two? Hank has been solid
- VANTEL



Come on man....don't do this.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
Welcome back Brother
- VANTEL

I was meditating. Feeling very zen, now.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
Excuses are for losers that is why I don't use them .I seen two different coaches and when Daniel was in the lineup he was very underwhelming. 1 or 0 shots a night . It was a miracle the nights he had three shots on net even if they did come from the blueline
- VANTEL


Ok, I'm going to have to start pasting stats again

Where do you get your basis for your analysis?

Facts:

Daniel Sedin

2011-2012 72 30 37 67 229 (shots on goal)
2012-2013 47 12 28 40 138 (shots on goal)
2012-2013 73 16 31 47 224 (shots on goal) (injuries) (anomaly year)
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