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sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:46 PM ET
100% Agree with this. Mac-Turris-Ryan is untouchable
I don't believe in the whole break up offense in order to even things out.

- TheCalSen


You can't win if you only have one line that can score consistently. Turris and Mac scored just fine when Ryan went down (with stone on their line)......so why not spread it out. I think zibby and Ryan would be a really good pair, no matter who you played with them
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
Can someone please fill this in for me:

2005 NHL top 5 picks:

1.
2.
3.
4. Benoit Pouliot
5.

- AlfieisKing


I believe it was

Crosby
Ryan
J. Johnson
Pouliot
Price

And we got lee at 9th.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
Can someone please fill this in for me:

2005 NHL top 5 picks:

1. Sid the Kid
2. Jack Johnson
3. Bobby Ryan
4. Benoit Pouliot
5. Anze Kopitar?

- AlfieisKing


Just guesses.
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Jun 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
You can't win if you only have one line that can score consistently. Turris and Mac scored just fine when Ryan went down (with stone on their line)......so why not spread it out. I think zibby and Ryan would be a really good pair, no matter who you played with them
- sensarmy_11


Production from the Turris line definitely took a hit after Ryan was injured.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:50 PM ET
Please sign him before the Pens do. Please!
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Jun 30 @ 6:50 PM ET
Just guesses.
- TommyHawk


Kopitar was after the 9th pick, I know for sure because Ottawa ended up picking Lee instead of Kopitar
Max2166
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 05.15.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:52 PM ET
He would be a great signing for the Sens. He is from the region. I stil thinkl Jason Spezza is traded to the Stars for Chiasson and Daley. Another Sens player could be involved in the deal.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:52 PM ET
Kopitar was after the 9th pick, I know for sure because Ottawa ended up picking Lee instead of Kopitar
- TheCalSen

We ended up taking Skille at 7 (which apparently was a big reach). I feel your pain.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
Can someone please fill this in for me:

2005 NHL top 5 picks:

1.
2.
3.
4. Benoit Pouliot
5.

- AlfieisKing


Ha ha! That pick still haunting Wild faithful!
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
If (when) the Sens end up moving Spezza, is there any chance that half of his salary is eaten?

If so, I believe that Chicago is your best bet for your needs.
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
Here are the forwards with better GoalFor% percentages over the last three seasons:

Bergeron, Crosby, Marchand, Seguin, Kunitz, Kopitar, Stepan, Sedin, Steen, Franzen.

Pouliot is 11th.

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
Production from the Turris line definitely took a hit after Ryan was injured.
- TheCalSen


A little one, but their minutes also got reduced when hemsky showed up and that line started clicking

I just remember Maclean talking about setting his lines based on pairs, not groups of 3. So to me, those pairs would be

Turris-Mac
Zibby-Ryan
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:55 PM ET
If (when) the Sens end up moving Spezza, is there any chance that half of his salary is eaten?

If so, I believe that Chicago is your best bet for your needs.

- TommyHawk


Spezza (salary retained), gryba

For Shaw and leddy
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:56 PM ET
Here are the forwards with better GoalFor% percentages over the last three seasons:

Bergeron, Crosby, Marchand, Seguin, Kunitz, Kopitar, Stepan, Sedin, Steen, Franzen.

Pouliot is 11th.

- Travis Yost


That's an alright list.....I guess
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:59 PM ET
Spezza (salary retained), gryba

For Shaw and leddy

- sensarmy_11

1. How much salary is retained?
2. I don't think that the 'Hawks will give up Shaw. I believe (could be mistaken) that the 'Nucks really wanted him (apart for Terevainen and Saad) and the 'Hawks couldn't deal him, so I don't think they deal him for Spezza, who would likely be a rental anyways.

Wasn't Gryba just re-signed anyways? I doubt he gets moved. However, I'm sure that Zack Smith or Colin Greening would be of interest to the 'Hawks

EDIT: With that being said, I counter with:

Leddy, Versteeg, a mid-level prospect, and a 2nd round pick for Spezza (salary retained) and Zack Smith.
Cup 06
Ottawa Senators
Location: Tkachuk Town, ON
Joined: 03.01.2006

Jun 30 @ 6:59 PM ET
Yep told you guys they were targeting him about six weeks ago? They scouted him heavy in the playoffs.

Another scoop for me.

Late bloomer, great fit, best years ahead.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 30 @ 7:00 PM ET
Here are the forwards with better GoalFor% percentages over the last three seasons:

Bergeron, Crosby, Marchand, Seguin, Kunitz, Kopitar, Stepan, Sedin, Steen, Franzen.

Pouliot is 11th.

- Travis Yost

Solid ranking, but certainly doesn't paint the true picture of a complete underachiever like Pouliot.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:00 PM ET
I agree, he could be potential a nice value signing by UFA standards.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
1. How much salary is retained?
2. I don't think that the 'Hawks will give up Shaw. I believe (could be mistaken) that the 'Nucks really wanted him (apart for Terevainen and Saad) and the 'Hawks couldn't deal him, so I don't think they deal him for Spezza, who would likely be a rental anyways.

Wasn't Gryba just re-signed anyways? I doubt he gets moved. However, I'm sure that Zack Smith or Colin Greening would be of interest to the 'Hawks

- TommyHawk


Was trying to think of a deal that didn't involve saad or TT.......not sure what else the hawks have (that they'd move) that Murray would be interested in
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
1. How much salary is retained?
2. I don't think that the 'Hawks will give up Shaw. I believe (could be mistaken) that the 'Nucks really wanted him (apart for Terevainen and Saad) and the 'Hawks couldn't deal him, so I don't think they deal him for Spezza, who would likely be a rental anyways.

Wasn't Gryba just re-signed anyways? I doubt he gets moved. However, I'm sure that Zack Smith or Colin Greening would be of interest to the 'Hawks

- TommyHawk


Alright, new proposal.

Greening for a toews autograph and new jockstraps for next season.....no salary retained though
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:03 PM ET
Solid ranking, but certainly doesn't paint the true picture of a complete underachiever like Pouliot.
- MnGump


He's actually been solid the last 3 years.

Obviously not living up to his draft position, but also not the same useless player he was in minny
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:04 PM ET
Alright, new proposal.

Greening for a toews autograph and new jockstraps for next season.....no salary retained though

- sensarmy_11



What's wrong with his game?

Seems to be a very physical player with solid size ... sounds like a sound bottom-six, gritty winger (who is also very cheap).

I edited my comment with a proposal.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:05 PM ET
Yep told you guys they were targeting him about six weeks ago? They scouted him heavy in the playoffs.

Another scoop for me.

Late bloomer, great fit, best years ahead.

- Cup 06




TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Jun 30 @ 7:07 PM ET
He's actually been solid the last 3 years.

Obviously not living up to his draft position, but also not the same useless player he was in minny

- sensarmy_11


If they're so high on getting Greening, I don't see why we should keep him.
Ott: Spezza(salary retained 30%), Greening, Prince, 2nd
Chicago: Leddy, Shaw, Clendening.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:07 PM ET


What's wrong with his game?

Seems to be a very physical player with solid size ... sounds like a sound bottom-six, gritty winger (who is also very cheap).

I edited my comment with a proposal.

- TommyHawk


if we're adding smith ( a good player on great contract ) and retaining salary on spezza, it absolutely has to be leddy AND shaw, and no versteeg
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