The cap hit that hangs over the club every year. It just seems dumb that they have to carry that indefinitely, but if there isn't a "fair" way of clearing it off the books, it opens up the system to abuse of the salary cap.
- magmoo

We thought the new CBA would allow teams move players like Pronger off the books because they clearly aren't capable of playing. If we were the Devils, they would have made that exception.

The cap hit that hangs over the club every year. It just seems dumb that they have to carry that indefinitely, but if there isn't a "fair" way of clearing it off the books, it opens up the system to abuse of the salary cap.
- magmoo

You said they should be penalized like the Devils? For what? There is no abuse of the salary cap here.

That was one of my favorite days on here.
- jmatchett383

Very memorable

I feel like those two things are aren't very comparable
- PhillySportsGuy

In his world they might

I'd rather move Streit, and sign Erhoff than sign Grossmann. In fact, if Alt is playing well for the Phantoms by mid season, I'd think about moving AMac for some more scoring on the wing and/or a decent draft pick and go with:
Coburn-Erhoff
Timonen-Schenn
Grossmann-Alt
- BiggE

I agree with the first suggestion. But the latter replaceing MacDonald with Alt is a pretty bad idea. Alt many never become an NHL regular, and if he does break in, he'll need to be sheltered, and used correctly to get his feet right. We complain that the Flyers defense isn't good enough and then want to trade one of the better defenseman on the team for offensive help.

We thought the new CBA would allow teams move players like Pronger off the books because they clearly aren't capable of playing. If we were the Devils, they would have made that exception.
- PhillySportsGuy

No I doubt they would've. Not being capable of playing again, really has nothing to do with how LTIR works.

I feel like those two things are aren't very comparable
- PhillySportsGuy

Between he and his wife they will discover a way to kill disease by annihilatingIit with a laser.

Between he and his wife they will discover a way to kill disease by annihilatingIit with a laser.
- nails

I'm interested in his work

Aren't you supposed to be growing cultures or splitting atoms or something?
- nails

Some days things need to go slow and be nurtured along. It just so happens that free agency day is usually one of those days

I'm interested in his work
- PhillySportsGuy

I am sure it is very mundane.
I am a science guy, and they start talking about work and I have to ask for one of those star trek voice decoders

I'm interested in his work
- PhillySportsGuy

I think it's being hyped up a bit more than it really is

Some days things need to go slow and be nurtured along. It just so happens that free agency day is usually one of those days
- eayost

Completely by chance of course

But it's not abuse. They signed a deal per the rules knowing (possibly) full well what the possible ramifications were, and now that he's permanently injured, they're playing by the rules again. Similar situation to Marc Savard in Boston.
- jmatchett383

I agree and I'm not saying the Flyers are circumventing the cap at all. The intent of the rule was to prevent teams from signing veterans for term longer than reasonable given their age. So it wasn't the case with Pronger/Savard, but their teams are still dealing with the liability....how does the league free the teams without setting the precedent that moving an older player to LTIR can be used to avoid the intended rule?

Medical opinion is not something that rules handle well.

I am sure it is very mundane.
I am a science guy, and they start talking about work and I have to ask for one of those star trek voice decoders
- nails

My mom used to be a biochemist. She couldn't understand why science didn't come easy to me like it did for her. She'd 'help' me study.

I think it's being hyped up a bit more than it really is
- eayost

You just spray mold with bleach don't you?

Prediction:

Flyers will possibly do something to their roster today. Regardless of that action or inaction, some people will like it and some people will not like as much.

I agree and I'm not saying the Flyers are circumventing the cap at all. The intent of the rule was to prevent teams from signing veterans for term longer than reasonable given their age. So it wasn't the case with Pronger/Savard, but their teams are still dealing with the liability....how does the league free the teams without setting the precedent that moving an older player to LTIR can be used to avoid the intended rule?

Medical opinion is not something that rules handle well.
- magmoo

35 or not, it's in the player's best interests to not retire while signed to a contract. LTIR due to retirement and the over-35 rule are separate issues that just happen to be connected in this case.

Completely by chance of course
- nails

It works out that I'm very free starting at noon eastern time as well

I agree and I'm not saying the Flyers are circumventing the cap at all. The intent of the rule was to prevent teams from signing veterans for term longer than reasonable given their age. So it wasn't the case with Pronger/Savard, but their teams are still dealing with the liability....how does the league free the teams without setting the precedent that moving an older player to LTIR can be used to avoid the intended rule?

Medical opinion is not something that rules handle well.
- magmoo

Pronger's injury was more of a fluke though. He suffered the concussion from taking a stick to the eye. It was a cumulative effect like Savard.

There really is no way to fix it. I was hoping they'd wipe the slate clean for both teams. It was fairly obvious that both players weren't faking. They were both still playing at a very high level prior to the injury.

You just spray mold with bleach don't you?
- PhillySportsGuy

And watch it disintegrate under the microscope. Fun

How would you guys feel about trading a pick/prospect (3rd/Straka) and trying to get Jakob Markstrom out of Vancouver?

Prediction:

Flyers will possibly do something to their roster today. Regardless of that action or inaction, some people will like it and some people will not like as much.
- jmatchett383

Bet me $5,000,000

Bet me $5,000,000
- PhillySportsGuy

I bet you $5,000,000. What are we betting on?

Why is Dave Bolland trying to command some kind of high money, long term deal? Can anyone clue me in here?

Prediction:

Flyers will possibly do something to their roster today. Regardless of that action or inaction, some people will like it and some people will not like as much.
- jmatchett383