AllInForFlyers
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This needs to be posted again:
Gord Miller @GMillerTSN · Jun 30
Every year at this time, defensive defencemen get bought out, and then on July 1st, teams shell out huge $ for other defensive defencemen.
Orpik $5.5M
Mitchell $4.25M
Engelland $2.9M
Stoner $3.25
Fayne $3.65 - Tomahawk
You have to laugh, man. You just have to laugh.
If I had kids, I'd bet my firstborn that Orpik won't see the end of that contract and Washington's going to be begging to buy him out.
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tangent_man
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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It's simply common sense of why he took a way below market value deal, and a one year term, to sign with the Pens. If you don't want to see that, not much I can do about it. But it's pretty obvious. - MJL
There are degrees of obvious?
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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I'd agree with that completely, because Orpik walking alone is a net positive.
That deal, the Bolland deal, the Meszaros deal...those are my headscratchers for the day.
David Bolland, 5 for 27.5. I don't even know how to begin to parse that. - AllInForFlyers
If you're tanking for McDavid/Eichel, Mez is your man
Expect him to be on the ice for 25 minutes every night |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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His point totals make him look more attractive than he is. He's become a very one dimensional player at this point - PhillySportsGuy
It really depends on if he can get healthy, and get back to the level he was at before the injuries.
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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There are degrees of obvious? - tangent_man
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Anyone that still wants to female dog and moan about Amc should just be glad their not Capitals fans.
Good grief. - mochoson
why? the niskanen deal was fair |
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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If you're tanking for McDavid/Eichel, Mez is your man
Expect him to be on the ice for 25 minutes every night - PhillySportsGuy
Like I always say: If somebody's giving you two points, you damn sure better take 'em
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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why? the niskanen deal was fair - 2Real
What about the Orpik deal? The Willie Mitchell deal? The Derek Engelland deal? The Stoner deal? |
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It really depends on if he can get healthy, and get back to the level he was at before the injuries. - MJL
Even then that is an upper limit for him. Only one year though, they didn't pull a full Leino here |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Capgeek says 1-year $2M (leight) - Tomahawk
Must be another player that was bought out that only got one offer.
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Doc_Sarcasm
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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why? the niskanen deal was fair - 2Real
Orpik's deal is ridiculous
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PhillySportsGuy
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Orpik's deal is ridiculous - Doc_Sarcasm
Easily, the worst deal of the day. |
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What about the Orpik deal? The Willie Mitchell deal? The Derek Engelland deal? The Stoner deal? - jmatchett383
But he's right about Nisk, Erhoff and a lesser extent Boyle. AMac is a good player but it is fair for people to be skeptical in my opinion. |
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FlyersSteve118
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Location: Delco, PA Joined: 10.02.2013
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Man we really can't sign anyone until Lecavalier is moved can we? |
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watsonnostaw
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Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard. Joined: 06.26.2006
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Meanwhile, Belgium is completely dominating the U.S. they just can't score! - Cable2k
alot of waffling |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Easily, the worst deal of the day. - PhillySportsGuy
I don't know, that Bolland deal was pretty bad poop too. |
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watsonnostaw
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Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard. Joined: 06.26.2006
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Man we really can't sign anyone until Lecavalier is moved can we? - FlyersSteve118
Lecavalier will be in the Flyers opening night lineup..... |
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jmatchett383
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But he's right about Nisk, Erhoff and a lesser extent Boyle. AMac is a good player but it is fair for people to be skeptical in my opinion. - coffee junkie
All I'm saying is that, based on the deals today as a whole (and we can include Nikitin too), it's not looking nearly as bad. Skeptical is fine, but to crucify it wrt the other deals is a bit much. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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Man we really can't sign anyone until Lecavalier is moved can we? - FlyersSteve118
Flyers have a 10% cap overage to work with... 4.74 million left or something, but if they use it they WILL be moving someone to get underneath the cap when the season starts.
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Cable2k
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Location: Terrace, BC Joined: 08.29.2006
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Man we really can't sign anyone until Lecavalier is moved can we? - FlyersSteve118
It really seems that is what they are waiting for... |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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And way, way worse defensively... plus he has a scary injury history. Super nice guy, however. - bmeltzer
C'mon Bill, that doesn't help with the narrative that Holmgren screwed up! |
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tangent_man
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@CSwamptown: FA Preference Power Rankings: 1) Near wife's home. 2) Near parent's home. 3) Contender... 98) Prairie provinces. 99) Ottawa
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PhillySportsGuy
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I don't know, that Bolland deal was pretty bad poop too. - jmatchett383
I think Bolland will help the Panthers. He's being vastly overpaid, but they have some good, young centers. Orpik is a net negative from the time he steps on the ice for them. |
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FlyersSteve118
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Flyers have a 10% cap overage to work with... 4.74 million left or something, but if they use it they WILL be moving someone to get underneath the cap when the season starts. - Doc_Sarcasm
If you use all of you 10% than you are in a position where you HAVE to move salary and you pretty much gotta bend over and take what some other team will give you. I think that's what they are trying to avoid. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 4m
Brian Boyle to TB. Three years, $2.3M AAV. |
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