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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:44 PM ET
Apparently players take less money in Florida because theres no job tax. I was schooled on that thought today. That's why the corpse of willie Mitchell gets 2 years at 4.25
- Just5

yeah that deal is pretty crummy value
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
Congratulations! I checked the code.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmonds
Umburger-Couturier-Read
Rosehill-Laughton-Rinaldo

Grossmann-Coburn
Timonen-Schenn
MacDonald-Streit

Mason
Emery

Stupid Umburger and stupid Raffl can be switched if need be.

- SuperSchennBros


If Laughton has those wingers, he puts up 50 points minimum.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
Nice to see all the free agent defensemen not named Engelland & Orpik got together today and collectively decided to take discounts.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
Apparently players take less money in Florida because theres no job tax. I was schooled on that thought today. That's why the corpse of willie Mitchell gets 2 years at 4.25
- Just5


Willie Mitchell is a pretty solid defensive defenseman.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
yeah that deal is pretty crummy value
- stayinthefnnet


If Niskanen really passed up 7 x $7M state income tax-free, for $5.75M x 7... he must have REALLY wanted to play w/ OV.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:48 PM ET
Nice to see all the free agent defensemen not named Engelland & Orpik got together today and collectively decided to take discounts.
- Jsaquella


Two defenseman took discounts. Ehrhoff and Niskanen. What today pretty much showed is that all the comments that the MacDonald contract was a bad contract were erroneous.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:48 PM ET
If Niskanen really passed up 7 x $7M state income tax-free, for $5.75M x 7... he must have REALLY wanted to play w/ OV.
- Tomahawk


Money isn't everything
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:48 PM ET
Nice to see all the free agent defensemen not named Engelland & Orpik got together today and collectively decided to take discounts.
- Jsaquella


Yeah, never knew UFA's could be so charitable.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 1 @ 6:49 PM ET
Reading on some other sites, I am absolutely SHOCKED at the vitriol people are spewing towards the Emery signing of all things.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:49 PM ET
Money isn't everything
- ob18


Translation: 7 x 7 was BS.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:50 PM ET
Two defenseman took discounts. Ehrhoff and Niskanen. What today pretty much showed is that all the comments that the MacDonald contract was a bad contract were erroneous.
- MJL

if you could pick. mcdonald at his current deal or stralman for the one he received?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:50 PM ET
Reading on some other sites, I am absolutely SHOCKED at the vitriol people are spewing towards the Emery signing of all things.

- MBFlyerfan


I don't understand this either. I was pretty happy to have him back at that price.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:50 PM ET
If Laughton has those wingers, he puts up 50 points minimum.
- PLindbergh31

With Hartnell out, we lose one Power Play specialist for the Penalty Killer we didn't have last season.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:51 PM ET
Two defenseman took discounts. Ehrhoff and Niskanen. What today pretty much showed is that all the comments that the MacDonald contract was a bad contract were erroneous.
- MJL


What I learned is we could have never apparently signed Stralman for 4.5 per bc of the job tax. And the Flyers were damn smart to unload a 2nd and a 3rd to lock in Macdonald at market value for that great playoff run.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:52 PM ET
Nice to see all the free agent defensemen not named Engelland & Orpik got together today and collectively decided to take discounts.
- Jsaquella


Sarcasm?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:52 PM ET
Two defenseman took discounts. Ehrhoff and Niskanen. What today pretty much showed is that all the comments that the MacDonald contract was a bad contract were erroneous.
- MJL


Yup. You were right all along. MacDonald would have got 6+ million today.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:52 PM ET
I don't understand this either. I was pretty happy to have him back at that price.
- johndewar


Haters gonna hate
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 6:52 PM ET
What I learned is we could have never apparently signed Stralman for 4.5 per bc of the job tax. And the Flyers were damn smart to unload a 2nd and a 3rd to lock in Macdonald at market value for that great playoff run.
- Just5

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
Reading on some other sites, I am absolutely SHOCKED at the vitriol people are spewing towards the Emery signing of all things.

- MBFlyerfan


Why? That's dumb. If the flyers stay out of the box more like they plan to he'll be fine.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
if you could pick. mcdonald at his current deal or stralman for the one he received?
- stayinthefnnet


I think MacDonald is a little better, so MacDonald. And the contracts are slotted right there. Stralman got a little less a year.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
What I learned is we could have never apparently signed Stralman for 4.5 per bc of the job tax. And the Flyers were damn smart to unload a 2nd and a 3rd to lock in Macdonald at market value for that great playoff run.
- Just5


Not saying I agree with trading those picks, but Flyers dont make the playoffs without MacDonald. Which is not a bad thing IMO.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 6:54 PM ET
Yeah, never knew UFA's could be so charitable.
- Tomahawk


Imagine if the Flyers had waited until yesterday to re-sign him...several comparable guys got more friendly deals today.

Although one could argue signing MacDonald also kept them out of the Orpik race.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:54 PM ET
if you could pick. mcdonald at his current deal or stralman for the one he received?
- stayinthefnnet

One good thing about Amac is how well Schenn responded to playing with him. Who knows if Stralman would have the same impact. Honestly I don't know which would be better which is why I'm not a GM.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:55 PM ET
Yup. You were right all along. MacDonald would have got 6+ million today.
- PLindbergh31


Well at least we've moved off of the tunnel vision view of Holmgren screwed up. Now we've moved onto putting words in people's mouths and attributing false statements to them! Well done

I've been consistent in my statements on MacDonald and the deal the Flyers signed him to. The Flyers got him for market value.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:56 PM ET
The Caps and Sabres?

Chicago got Brad Richards for nothing

- PhillySportsGuy

Chicago was already a good team. The Sabers on the other hand have been terrible along time and it's amazing anyone wanted to go there at all.
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