You really think Grabovski wants to take that much of a discount below $5 million/yr he was just earning. He might take a one year prove it contract, or could even bolt for the KHL
- ravishingone

a one year prove it contract comes at a value for the team giving it though.

so once again ek lied in all his flyers rumors

i didn't see that. i've been skimming all day. i think hextall is going to prove to be quite shrewd. he'll make mistakes, but i have a lot of faith in him. he won't just give him away. if he can't find the right deal, he'll keep him and roll with it. he's essentially said that already. and i'm fine with that. i'm willing to give him another year and hopefully he stays healthy.
- hammarby31

I have a lot of faith in Hextall thus far. I like what he has done and how he has approached putting his mark on the team. I really liked his draft class and his apparent ideas on team building.

I think that if he can't make an acceptable deal for Vinny, then Vinny will remain a Flyer. If he was willing to eat a lot of salary or trade a high pick, I think Vinny would be gone by now.

Absolutely not. Said that from the get go. You have to draw a line at some point. My very first post on the topic said that. Somehow it's been missed.
- Jsaquella

If I even thought Vinny could be net neutral, even if you bent over backwards to shelter him...I'd take it. In the games where he played well, you can see that he is/was a lethal goal scorer. He knows exactly where to go and what to do when he gets there. He sees those scoring opportunities.

You don't have to be the fastest skater. You don't have to be a positive possession player. The problem with Vinny is that if you aren't strong defensively, at this time...we can't hide him enough because we have a young team with some forwards who can go cold offensively, so we have to win games by making fewer mistakes, at times.

Believe it or not, I do think there are teams out there where Vinny could be net neutral and look fairly decent.

We just don't have that kind of roster, right now. Which is too bad, because sometimes, you do need a straight-up offensive player who can do what he does.

If I even thought Vinny could be net neutral, even if you bent over backwards to shelter him...I'd take it. In the games where he played well, you can see that he is/was a lethal goal scorer. He knows exactly where to go and what to do when he gets there. He sees those scoring opportunities.

You don't have to be the fastest skater. You don't have to be a positive possession player. The problem with Vinny is that if you aren't strong defensively, at this time...we can't hide him enough because we have a young team with some forwards who can go cold offensively, so we have to win games by making fewer mistakes, at times.

Believe it or not, I do think there are teams out there where Vinny could be net neutral and look fairly decent.

We just don't have that kind of roster, right now. Which is too bad, because sometimes, you do need a straight-up offensive player who can do what he does.
- AllInForFlyers

I think with careful planning, he could be net neutral, sure.

Get him a line where he has a winger that can lug the puck, a big dude who can bang home rebounds and just let him be the shooter on the line and keep them away from bad matchups and he'd be fine.

I have a lot of faith in Hextall thus far. I like what he has done and how he has approached putting his mark on the team. I really liked his draft class and his apparent ideas on team building.

I think that if he can't make an acceptable deal for Vinny, then Vinny will remain a Flyer. If he was willing to eat a lot of salary or trade a high pick, I think Vinny would be gone by now.
- Jsaquella

His draft picks were promising two-way defenders with speed, a two-way winger who plays center and has lots of speed, a far faller who was at one point prjected to go first round (picked in the 5th), and an incredibly hard worker. His FA signings have been a cheap but good and good team fit backup goalie, and two two-way forwards with speed. His single trade acquired a pick and a two-way player with speed. See the pattern? Cause I like it. It's a damn fine pattern.

so once again ek lied in all his flyers rumors
- 2Real

I have a lot of faith in Hextall thus far. I like what he has done and how he has approached putting his mark on the team. I really liked his draft class and his apparent ideas on team building.

I think that if he can't make an acceptable deal for Vinny, then Vinny will remain a Flyer. If he was willing to eat a lot of salary or trade a high pick, I think Vinny would be gone by now.
- Jsaquella

Agreed. I do have a lot of respect for Hextall not throwing away assets to get rid of Vinnie's contract.

I think with careful planning, he could be net neutral, sure.

Get him a line where he has a winger that can lug the puck, a big dude who can bang home rebounds and just let him be the shooter on the line and keep them away from bad matchups and he'd be fine.
- Jsaquella

Personally, I like the idea of him on a line with Read and Simmonds. Move B. Schenn to the top line.

I think with careful planning, he could be net neutral, sure.

Get him a line where he has a winger that can lug the puck, a big dude who can bang home rebounds and just let him be the shooter on the line and keep them away from bad matchups and he'd be fine.
- Jsaquella

That winger who carries it would have to be a hell of a passer and have good speed...off the top of my head, I think Vinny would probably look pretty decent with Ales Hemsky, Phil Kessel and even Jake Voracek.

It might have to be that Berube has to give Giroux different wingers this year and see if Voracek can get Schenn or Lecavalier to raise their games, because while it did look like he tried everything last year, actually, he didn't. For good reason; Giroux was killing it over the last four months and we needed every single point we could get.

But if it were me...I'd risk splitting Voracek from Giroux for a few weeks and see what happens

so once again ek lied in all his flyers rumors
- 2Real

Bro hes just reporting what his sources tell him during their top secret coversations

That winger who carries it would have to be a hell of a passer and have good speed...off the top of my head, I think Vinny would probably look pretty decent with Ales Hemsky, Phil Kessel and even Jake Voracek.

It might have to be that Berube has to give Giroux different wingers this year and see if Voracek can get Schenn or Lecavalier to raise their games, because while it did look like he tried everything last year, actually, he didn't. For good reason; Giroux was killing it over the last four months and we needed every single point we could get.

But if it were me...I'd risk splitting Voracek from Giroux for a few weeks and see what happens
- AllInForFlyers

Agreed wholeheartedly.

When I try to come up with combos, I find myself splitting 28 & 93 more than 3/4ths of the time. I think you get two dynamic lines that can generate chances like a bastard that way and really give offensive opportunities to more guys.

If Schenn is playing center, I want him to play with Jake.

Agreed. I do have a lot of respect for Hextall not throwing away assets to get rid of Vinnie's contract.
- flyler

I just like the approach. He's clearly got a plan and he's trying to implement it. Every move has been made thus far to get better skating players, either on defense or up front, who can play a two way game.

so once again ek lied in all his flyers rumors
- 2Real

yet here you are reading and commenting. Keep up the good work, I am sure he appreciates each and every one of your page views

yet here you are reading and commenting. Keep up the good work, I am sure he appreciates each and every one of your page views
- watsonnostaw

abp bro abp

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- 2Real

Dustin Penner will be the LW that the Flyers bring in..... enjoy

abp bro abp
- 2Real

all boints pulletin?

Dustin Penner will be the LW that the Flyers bring in..... enjoy
- watsonnostaw

makes more sense that other poop i've read

all boints pulletin?
- Crimsoninja

google it homie

google it homie
- 2Real

*throws chair

Agreed wholeheartedly.

When I try to come up with combos, I find myself splitting 28 & 93 more than 3/4ths of the time. I think you get two dynamic lines that can generate chances like a bastard that way and really give offensive opportunities to more guys.

If Schenn is playing center, I want him to play with Jake.
- Jsaquella

I believed it with Couturier last year and believe it with Schenn now: You've invested time with these players. You owe it to them, and yourself, to give them wingers that allow them to maximize their potential.

I think Umberger's gonna wind up playing with Couturier and I think that will help them both -- Couturier's good enough where he just needs wingers who aren't killing him. The better the wingers you give him, the more I think -- repeat think -- he will produce.

With Schenn, I already know -- I've seen it enough. He's not flashy or extremely fast or extremely skilled. He reminds me a lot of how Daymond Langkow was, though Langkow was a better passer.

But if you put Schenn with just one dynamic winger, he will score. It's unfortunate that he's not, say...Peter Forsberg. But Schenn can be better at center, and impactful in games, with the right kind of wingers.

*throws chair
- Crimsoninja

I'M MAD

Dustin Penner will be the LW that the Flyers bring in..... enjoy
- watsonnostaw

I won't even lie...that one wouldn't shock me. Not saying it will happen, but I could see it.

*throws chair
- Crimsoninja

I wonder what his thoughts are on the Lane Johnson suspension

I wonder what his thoughts are on the Lane Johnson suspension
- watsonnostaw

he aint no dwayne