5 Different hot dogs don't do it for you.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Those hotdogs would taste pretty good right now.

I was on here supporting the possibility of a Vrbata signing yesterday and the day before. I think he's an underrated player and is a decent pick-up for 2 years.

Like I said, next to the Miller signing, this one actually makes some sense.
- AlexF

we want scoring, Vrbata provides scoring.

didn't need a 6 million, didn't show particularly well in the playoffs or down the stretch, Ryan Miller. Why not have another controversy, possible 6mil backup.

At 5v5:

Hanzal as his center and mostly Kennedy as LW, other common linemate as LW was Korpikoski.

PP was usually Hanzal and Ribeiro.
- Nucker101

I don't see how this is accurate. Hanzel was their 3rd line center. You telling me Vrbata racked up 50 pts on Phoenix's 3rd line?

The fact that Jensen is an afterthought pisses me off. I can't wait to have Higgins playing on our second line and Hansen with the twins


I don't mean you Alex I mean other that are not penciling Jensen
- VANTEL

Higgins is a legit 3rd liner. Jensen would have to earn a top 6 spot in camp if he's gonna displace a veteran. No point putting him on the 3rd line. with Benning and Desjardins being old school I kind of think their gonna want to go with the vets. but who knows maybe Willie will carry a couple of young guys to bounce in and out of the lineup.

I don't see how this is accurate. Hanzel was their 3rd line center. You telling me Vrbata racked up 50 pts on Phoenix's 3rd line?
- AlexF

That site doesn't lie...Hanzal was their actual 2LC at 5v5, hence the Ribeiro buyout.

Great site:

http://leftwinglock.com/l...&strength=PP&gametype=ALL
- Nucker101

This is a good site for advanced stats.

http://www.extraskater.com

That site doesn't lie...Hanzal was their actual 2LC at 5v5, hence the Ribeiro buyout.
- Nucker101

Yeah that site shows that Phoenix's most common line (30%) was Vrbata-Hanzel-Ribeiro. Didn't relize they shifted Ribeiro to the wing that often.

This is a good site for advanced stats.

http://www.extraskater.com
- LeftCoaster

I like that site for it's breakdown of advanced stats during live games or post-game, but I prefer this one better when generally looking at a player's current or previous season. Simpler format.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...1&sort=HARTp&sortdir=DESC

When I first heard they signed Vrbata on my way home from work, my immediate thought was WTF!? After a few hours to digest it though, I actually really like it. So long as one or two of Higgy / Hansen / Bur are dealt to make way for one of the youngsters or more moves are made for another top 6, I really like the deal.

Higgins is a legit 3rd liner. Jensen would have to earn a top 6 spot in camp if he's gonna displace a veteran. No point putting him on the 3rd line. with Benning and Desjardins being old school I kind of think their gonna want to go with the vets. but who knows maybe Willie will carry a couple of young guys to bounce in and out of the lineup.
- kaptaan

Agreed - line combos other than Dany and Hank are useless at this point. Camp will separate the men from the boys.

That site doesn't lie...Hanzal was their actual 2LC at 5v5, hence the Ribeiro buyout.
- Nucker101

I think Ribeiro's buyout had more to do with his off ice issues and attitude than ability.

Yeah that site shows that Phoenix's most common line (30%) was Vrbata-Hanzel-Ribeiro. Didn't relize they shifted Ribeiro to the wing that often.
- AlexF

That was the PP. Click on even strength for the Hanzal and Kennedy/Korpikoski numbers.

I think Ribeiro's buyout had more to do with his off ice issues and attitude than ability.
- thundachunk

He was benched during a few games for poor play. He's regressed quite a bit.

Agreed - line combos other than Dany and Hank are useless at this point. Camp will separate the men from the boys.
- LeftCoaster

I'd like to see them revisit the Sedin-Sedin-Burrows line personally.

If vrbata and bonino do what hey did last year that's two keslers and finally secondary scoring

Outside of Botchford, I don't think anyone does. Definitely not the radio hosts, I'd say a few of the posters here know more than them for sure.
- Nucker101

Botch is a shaved head way from turning into the Damian Cox of Western Canada. His schtick is starting to wear thin...

That was the PP. Click on even strength for the Hanzal and Kennedy/Korpikoski numbers.
- Nucker101

Why you gotta make me look bad after I've already gone on record?

Bruins and Kings won Cups without tanking, we can too

Botch is a shaved head way from turning into the Damian Cox of Western Canada. His schtick is starting to wear thin...
- PetrolSexual

Botch is a shaved head way from turning into the Damian Cox of Western Canada. His schtick is starting to wear thin...
- PetrolSexual

Because he's from Ontario

I'd like to see them revisit the Sedin-Sedin-Burrows line personally.
- AlexF

Personally I'd like Burrows to (frank) off and beat it.

Just sayin

If vrbata and bonino do what hey did last year that's two keslers and finally secondary scoring
- The_Kuze

Vrbata-Bonino-Kassian isn't a bad line.

Personally I'd like Burrows to (frank) off and beat it.

Just sayin
- LeftCoaster

I'd feel the same, as soon as you can show me someone else that can mesh as well with and produce as well with the twins. Last year was an anomaly.

Vrbata-Bonino-Kassian isn't a bad line.
- AlexF

RW natural RW's though.

Why you gotta make me look bad after I've already gone on record?
- AlexF

Going on record at HB is no biggie