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Tampa has good young players. I think they hang tough. - spatso Yep they do ,its what they are banking on like us.Their vet support was better for them than ours was.Fillpula was far better an all around force than our vet top 6 center
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If we listed all the players starting opening night last October. Side by side, list the players you expect to see to see starting this October. They will be okay.
Biggest change, Zibanejad goes in for Spezza. - spatso
More youngsters getting more ice time for sure. Might work out well or there might be some bumps in the road. Do they do what Cowen did last year? Or do they do what Ceci did last year? Probably be a mix of both. Would be nice to add some guys who can fill out the depth chart who have some NHL experience to do a little guiding, but I guess we will see. |
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With Ottawa's ridiculous budget constraints I can't really see them wanting to sign him to much more than a 2-year/$2M contract, a bridge if you may. Although I am primarily a Leafs fan I do cheer for the Sens as my wife to be is a huge fan.
Until Eugene Melnyk figures out that he's better to sell of a majority stake in his team and retain minority ownership, the Sens are doomed to be a coin toss every year. Sure this team has some very good young assets, as they have done incredibly well in drafting young talent. But this team needs to spend some money to get some proven skilled players and until they are ready to do that, get ready for a bumpy ride.
Why would anyone want to play for a team that has a budget that far below the cap? Furthermore, this is not your Southern U.S. Hockey market. If Eugene Melnyk can't turn a profit from a Canadian hockey franchise, then the guy is just a pure idiot and has no right to call himself an NHL owner. |
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With Ottawa's ridiculous budget constraints I can't really see them wanting to sign him to much more than a 2-year/$2M contract, a bridge if you may. Although I am primarily a Leafs fan I do cheer for the Sens as my wife to be is a huge fan.
Until Eugene Melnyk figures out that he's better to sell of a majority stake in his team and retain minority ownership, the Sens are doomed to be a coin toss every year. Sure this team has some very good young assets, as they have done incredibly well in drafting young talent. But this team needs to spend some money to get some proven skilled players and until they are ready to do that, get ready for a bumpy ride.
Why would anyone want to play for a team that has a budget that far below the cap? Furthermore, this is not your Southern U.S. Hockey market. If Eugene Melnyk can't turn a profit from a Canadian hockey franchise, then the guy is just a pure idiot and has no right to call himself an NHL owner. - TheDeez
Your soon to be wife is a good woman... hold onto her!
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their D is gonna be real good this year. they added stralman and garrisson to play in their top 4...with hedman, carle, etc.
not the best in the league, but certainly very good. - sensarmy_11 Hedman is the only guy there,the rest are pretty meh tbh.
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Hedman is the only guy there,the rest are pretty meh tbh. - top shelf 15
other than probably the rangers and bruins, that's probably the best defensive group in the eastern conference. not sure why you think they're m'eh. they have a couple of good young guys in there too. |
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Hedman is the only guy there,the rest are pretty meh tbh. - top shelf 15
I am not sure your analysis is correct... But, we will see what happens throughout the year. |
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With Ottawa's ridiculous budget constraints I can't really see them wanting to sign him to much more than a 2-year/$2M contract, a bridge if you may. Although I am primarily a Leafs fan I do cheer for the Sens as my wife to be is a huge fan.
Until Eugene Melnyk figures out that he's better to sell of a majority stake in his team and retain minority ownership, the Sens are doomed to be a coin toss every year. Sure this team has some very good young assets, as they have done incredibly well in drafting young talent. But this team needs to spend some money to get some proven skilled players and until they are ready to do that, get ready for a bumpy ride.
Why would anyone want to play for a team that has a budget that far below the cap? Furthermore, this is not your Southern U.S. Hockey market. If Eugene Melnyk can't turn a profit from a Canadian hockey franchise, then the guy is just a pure idiot and has no right to call himself an NHL owner. - TheDeez
Fair points. Turning a profit is a tricky word in a Melnyk world. Ottawa has great cash flow coming in. And, Ottawa has a tight budget on player salaries. They will have the 2nd fewest miles of traveling this coming season. You would think profits would be spectacular.
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Fair points. Turning a profit is a tricky word in a Melnyk world. Ottawa has great cash flow coming in. And, Ottawa has a tight budget on player salaries. They will have the 2nd fewest miles of traveling this coming season. You would think profits would be spectacular.
Everyone would like to know, where is the money? - spatso
All gone towards Melnyk's quest for the elusive female orgasm. |
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I am not sure your analysis is correct... But, we will see what happens throughout the year. - riceroni Ours should be alot better as well. I know most here believe cowen to be garbage ,but last season was his second full one at the nhl level ,his second year slump was probably made even tougher to come out of because of his missed training camp.And probable issues from his injury the year past.Methot and EK both rough years and look to be able to bounce back.
I like our makeup on defense tbh ,it could be very good next season
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Eklund has up his rumor Sharrks....maybe Ottawa E-4 |
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Ours should be alot better as well i know here believe cowen to be garbage ,but last season his second full one at the nhl level ,his second year slump was probably made even tougher to come out of because of his missed training camp.And probable issues from his injury the year past.Methot and EK both rough years and look to be able to bounce back.
I like our makeup on defense tbh ,it could be very good next season
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I honestly don't think cowen bounces back. being big only takes you so far.....especially when you have the hockey iq of a stump.
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Eklund has up his rumor Sharrks....maybe Ottawa E-4 - spatso
there is no "big trade" between these two teams that makes any sense. EK is just trolling for hits. |
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there is no "big trade" between these two teams that makes any sense. EK is just trolling for hits. - sensarmy_11
Nope.
Smith for Marleau and Pavelski
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one of the sharks fans suggested
ryan and a pick (say Dallas 2nd)
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logan couture
would you guys do that? I think i would |
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I honestly don't think cowen bounces back. being big only takes you so far.....especially when you have the hockey iq of a stump.
if they trade weircioch, this D will be a (frank)ing train wreck next year. - sensarmy_11 Less is more for him, Cowen,s game is about physical presence ,in the defensive zone.He is a hammer ,his best play with the puck is how many he seperates from opposing forwards.Wiercoch for me is a giraffe on skates ,yes he can play the puck ,be he is slow and soft in reacting in the defensive zone.Iwatched gionta or galleger knock him off the puck,and seen enough of him.MAbergerion version2.0.Ceci took his job at 19
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Don't like how the Sun is implying Weircioch is getting traded.
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one of the sharks fans suggested
ryan and a pick (say Dallas 2nd)
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logan couture
would you guys do that? I think i would - sensarmy_11
Marleau |
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there is no "big trade" between these two teams that makes any sense. EK is just trolling for hits. - sensarmy_11
Bottom 6 center??thus allowing us to move zsmith to chicago??
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Don't like how the Sun is implying Weircioch is getting traded. - Trilla Good ,too soft and slow,ceci is better
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Good ,too soft and slow,ceci is better - top shelf 15
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Marleau - JACMAN
that move makes no sense for ottawa.
and i also think there is less than a zero% chance that marleau waives to go to a rebuilding team. |
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Good ,too soft and slow,ceci is better - top shelf 15
weircioch was EASILY our 3rd best d-man last year, and you could even make a pretty convincing argument that he was our 2nd best d-man (ahead of methot).
trading him (while keeping people like gryba, boro, phillips, etc) would be a TERRIBLE mistake. |
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that move makes no sense for ottawa.
and i also think there is less than a zero% chance that marleau waives to go to a rebuilding team. - sensarmy_11
Can't disagree, but WILSON would be out of his mind to move Couture unless it's Karlsson (less than 0% of that happening) |
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Can't disagree, but WILSON would be out of his mind to move Couture unless it's Karlsson (less than 0% of that happening) - JACMAN
if you have pavelski and thornton down the middle...adding ryan on one of their wings makes a lot of sense.
it's definitely trading future for present, but in terms of value, it's a fair trade.
i don't see it happening, as wilson has been pretty adamant that he wants to retool/rebuild...........but it wouldn't be the craziest deal i'd ever seen. |
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