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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 5:34 PM ET
This is simply inaacurate. Spezza was most certainly was having discussions about be moved before the deadline. He had a list in 2 years ago.

Murray made that situation much worse than it had to be. Trading him at the dealing is still just a rental situation and his value would not have been all that different.

- HoweHatrick


He would have been a better return at the trade deadline.
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:37 PM ET
He would have been a better return at the trade deadline.
- spatso


These are your words:

As they go deeper into the season more and more people will understand the benefit from dealing Spezza. The return would be enormous.

Better return? Or an enormous return?

Haha.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:37 PM ET
Exactly that is where Lazar if he was the rumored prospect hold key in that essentially 2 for 2 deal. Why is he the x factor, because he is so highly touted right now as a potential TWF stud like Toews that Chi would part with a player like Sharp for him if he was in the deal. Otherwise it would be like what was proposed earlier in the year as a rumor where it was

Ott
Smith
Greening

for

Chi
Versteeg or Bickell
Oduya

- Sensfanlifer
Dont want the rest ,would be good but we would need to bring in another experienced center to replace Zsmith
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:38 PM ET
These are your words:

As they go deeper into the season more and more people will understand the benefit from dealing Spezza. The return would be enormous.

Better return? Or an enormous return?

Haha.

- HoweHatrick

Do you have a point or are you here to spout off at spatso??You dont understand his point we get it ,by keeping this up you look even more silly
Sensfanlifer
Ottawa Senators
Location: BC
Joined: 05.30.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:40 PM ET
Dont want the rest ,would be good but we would need to bring in another experienced center to replace Zsmith

- top shelf 15


Thing is that is what Chi offered earlier in the season for Smith before they picked up Richards, as well as the rumor of Sharp/Leddy for Greening/Smith/lazar. Lazar would be the only way Chi would have accepted to send Sharp and Leddy for Greening and Smith.
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:41 PM ET
Do you have a point or are you here to spout off a spatso??You dont understand his point we get it ,by keeping this up you look even more silly
- top shelf 15


How do I look silly? I am not the one that said Spezza would land an enormous return at the deadline versus nothing at free agency. That would be Spatso in all his glory.

I understand the point he is trying to make. I, like the majority of posters here, simply think it is foolish.

Anything else I can help you with?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 5:42 PM ET
These are your words:

As they go deeper into the season more and more people will understand the benefit from dealing Spezza. The return would be enormous.

Better return? Or an enormous return?

Haha.

- HoweHatrick


Did you notice the date. It is a thread that started last summer and continued through the fall. I advocated trading Spezza way back. I was not saying you would get a larger return, I was saying more people will come to understand the benefits that come from trading Spezza. It has always been my argument that the value of Spezza would go down the longer you waited to trade him. But I wanted him traded after his great year two years ago.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 3 @ 5:43 PM ET
Did you notice the date. It is a thread that started last summer and continued through the fall. I advocated trading Spezza way back. I was not saying you would get a larger return, I was saying more people will come to understand the benefits that come from trading Spezza. It has always been my argument that the value of Spezza would go down the longer you waited to trade him. But I wanted him traded after his great year two years ago.
- spatso



I didn't include a date. That post was mid-November, 2013.
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:44 PM ET
Did you notice the date. It is a thread that started last summer and continued through the fall. I advocated trading Spezza way back. I was not saying you would get a larger return, I was saying more people will come to understand the benefits that come from trading Spezza. It has always been my argument that the value of Spezza would go down the longer you waited to trade him. But I wanted him traded after his great year two years ago.
- spatso


Please. You said an enormous return. No one in this thread is as stupid as you make them out to be. You were called out and caught. Have the decency to eat crow when your mouth is full of it.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 3 @ 5:44 PM ET
I don't know why this is taking so long to explain.
- TommyDeVito


we need some pictures or puppets or something.....maybe then he'll understand
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:45 PM ET
How do I look silly? I am not the one that said Spezza would land an enormous return at the deadline versus nothing at free agency. That would be Spatso in all his glory.

I understand the point he is trying to make. I, like the majority of posters here, simply think it is foolish.

Anything else I can help you with?

- HoweHatrick
Spats goes overboard ,sometimes .but we all do .You just seem hellbent on proving a point nobody cares about ,that we didnt get the return we hoped for .Is this really a great idea ,we dont need to be reminded how much a mess our team is now .So do me and the rest of us stfu about it
Sensfanlifer
Ottawa Senators
Location: BC
Joined: 05.30.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:46 PM ET
Bored let's start our own rumor and spread it around see how long till a actual media type picks up on it.

Heard Murray was given the ok to take a run at CBJ's RFA C Ryan Johansen, heard it was the only Ryan would resign.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
Thing is that is what Chi offered earlier in the season for Smith before they picked up Richards, as well as the rumor of Sharp/Leddy for Greening/Smith/lazar. Lazar would be the only way Chi would have accepted to send Sharp and Leddy for Greening and Smith.
- Sensfanlifer
Bickell and oduya ,for Zsmith and greening makes more sense for our point of view .But again we would be filling a hole and creating another
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
Spats goes overboard ,sometimes .but we all do .You just seem hellbent on proving a point nobody cares about ,that we didnt get the return we hoped for .Is this really a great idea ,we dont need to be reminded how much a mess our team is now .So do me and the rest of us stfu about it

- top shelf 15


If you do not like what I post you can ignore it. Otherwise, I would suggest taking your own advice with reference to the stfu part.

I can post emoticons too!

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:48 PM ET
Please. You said an enormous return. No one in this thread is as stupid as you make them out to be. You were called out and caught. Have the decency to eat crow when your mouth is full of it.
- HoweHatrick
Again dude we dont care ,take your beef with something spats said months ago elsewhere
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
How do I look silly? I am not the one that said Spezza would land an enormous return at the deadline versus nothing at free agency. That would be Spatso in all his glory.

I understand the point he is trying to make. I, like the majority of posters here, simply think it is foolish.

Anything else I can help you with?

- HoweHatrick


Look I think your getting on shaky ground here.

Spezza is nearly two year conversation with most of the guys here. They know how strongly I argued for him to be traded. It was my main point that your best return was last year.

If you want to discuss this stuff fine. But, at least respect the history. A lot of the guys have given me lumps here based on legitimate hockey differences. As I told you previously, don't make it about personality. If you are disrespectful it will be returned in kind.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
Zack Smith for Sharp

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:49 PM ET
If you do not like what I post you can ignore it. Otherwise, I would suggest taking your own advice with reference to the stfu part.

I can post emoticons too!


- HoweHatrick
You are on a sens board trying to troll us on how little we returned ,you need to leave
Sensfanlifer
Ottawa Senators
Location: BC
Joined: 05.30.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:50 PM ET
Bickell and oduya ,for Zsmith and greening makes more sense for our point of view .But again we would be filling a hole and creating another

- top shelf 15


See there in lies the problem now Chi filled a need with someone else. Now they just would still like Smith and Greening. The issue is what do we ask for in return that would help us, there is not much in a return they would be willing to part with that fits our needs.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:51 PM ET
See there in lies the problem now Chi filled a need with someone else. Now they just would still like Smith and Greening. The issue is what do we ask for in return that would help us, there is not much in a return they would be willing to part with that fits our needs.
- Sensfanlifer
Yep ,they are in for it soon .Their prospect pool could use a top up for sure .Winning costs not only money
OtownSens
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa , ON
Joined: 04.24.2012

Jul 3 @ 5:51 PM ET
I dont post here often but holy shnickees!!

Spatso, what world do you live in where you think Smith fetches Sharp straight up. Are you delusional?

And the other guy topshelf, who seems to be so far up Spatso's ass defending him, are you two dating or whats the deal here? You cant actually agree with him?
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:52 PM ET
You are on a sens board trying to troll us on how little we returned ,you need to leave

- top shelf 15


As a Senators fan, do you think I am happy with trading away a franchise player from a position of weakness for a player with one season of NHL experience?

I am commenting on the hypocrisy of spatso saying Spezza would earn an enormous return 8 months ago versus what we received this week.

You need to leave for being so thick.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 3 @ 5:53 PM ET
Look I think your getting on shaky ground here.

Spezza is nearly two year conversation with most of the guys here. They know how strongly I argued for him to be traded. It was my main point that your best return was last year.

If you want to discuss this stuff fine. But, at least respect the history. A lot of the guys have given me lumps here based on legitimate hockey differences. As I told you previously, don't make it about personality. If you are disrespectful it will be returned in kind.

- spatso


you calld me and gord and tommy donkey's a couple pages ago......so don't pull this disrespect card out spatso. howehatrick is going a little overboard, but you've been acting like a condescending bumhole for a couple of days now, so get the (frank) off your high horse.

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:54 PM ET
I dont post here often but holy shnickees!!

Spatso, what world do you live in where you think Smith fetches Sharp straight up. Are you delusional?

And the other guy topshelf, who seems to be so far up Spatso's ass defending him, are you two dating or whats the deal here? You cant actually agree with him?

- OtownSens
Sharp is worth ++++++ more than Smith dude ,anybody with a brain knows this .We just shouldnt be giving the ++++ on a player that we dont need as much as we currently need smith
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
you calld me and gord and tommy donkey's a couple pages ago......so don't pull this disrespect card out spatso. howehatrick is going a little overboard, but you've been acting like a condescending bumhole for a couple of days now, so get the (frank) off your high horse.
- sensarmy_11


What is good for the goose...

I have zero respect for someone like spatso who, on the one hand, acts like a d-bag, and then on the other, demands respect.
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