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bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:14 AM ET
Hockey is a niche sport. I mean it's not played in many countries and in the top league in the world over half the franchises struggle to maintain profitably. I realize Anthony just got 129m for 5 years and basketball is fairly niche as well I suppose but they have the US market enraptured so that's just about all of the battle won.
- AlexF

Absolutely, it's just a reminder that we are on our own little island up here in the Great White North. Nobody else actually gives a poop
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:15 AM ET
If his next deal hurts that would have meant he improved dramatically, which would be nice to see.
- AlexF

Yep! Bittersweet I would think. But it is encouraging that they got the deal done so quickly. I think if things go well for him during this contract he will not be unreasonable
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 4 @ 12:20 AM ET
Canucks have a large roster at the moment. Got think benning will trade some guys outta here.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:24 AM ET
Not sure if this is fair value, but would these trades work out?

MTL: Burrows
VAN: 3rd Round Pick

WPG: Jensen, Markstrom and a 2nd
VAN: E. Kane

Not sure if thats fair, but I would think switching Markstrom for Lack wouldn't be a bad idea as well. Like someone said in the comments, when Miller's contract is up, Demko should be NHL ready leaving no room for either Lack or Markstrom.

- Salami


You'd have to think they'd get better offers for Kane, but you never really can tell what the going rate is for disgruntled youths with dubious reputations. That could all be media over-hype though. What's important is what other GMs think, and per Botch the Cancuks apparently have "negative interest."
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:25 AM ET
Not sure if this is fair value, but would these trades work out?

MTL: Burrows
VAN: 3rd Round Pick

WPG: Jensen, Markstrom and a 2nd
VAN: E. Kane

Not sure if thats fair, but I would think switching Markstrom for Lack wouldn't be a bad idea as well. Like someone said in the comments, when Miller's contract is up, Demko should be NHL ready leaving no room for either Lack or Markstrom.

- Salami

Wow . New here I see.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:27 AM ET
Canucks have a large roster at the moment. Got think benning will trade some guys outta here.
- vancity787


I think that's what most of us are reading. I don't agree with everything Lord Benning has done but I can't say his tenure thus far has been uneventful.
Salami
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:30 AM ET
Wow . New here I see.
- VANTEL


Well no poop, the joined date is right there.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 12:33 AM ET
You'd have to think they'd get better offers for Kane, but you never really can tell what the going rate is for disgruntled youths with dubious reputations. That could all be media over-hype though. What's important is what other GMs think, and per Botch the Cancuks apparently have "negative interest."
- AlexF


That's the thing, how much is it reality and how much is it just papers trying to sell more papers? Would you take him for a reasonable package (even if you had to trade some high end prospects?). I would
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jul 4 @ 12:39 AM ET
Kassian's deal right where it should be... How some ppl thought he'd earned more @ this point is beyond me.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:40 AM ET
That's the thing, how much is it reality and how much is it just papers trying to sell more papers? Would you take him for a reasonable package (even if you had to trade some high end prospects?). I would
- Zogg


You bet. I was huge on getting Seguin here last summer. I'm not as keen on trading for E Kane as I was Seguin but absolutely I would trade for him.

It's clear that WPG have many of the same issues as EDM in terms of attracting free agent talent so they'd really need to do well for themselves on a Kane trade.
Salient
Vancouver Canucks
Location: House Reed
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:42 AM ET
You bet. I was huge on getting Seguin here last summer. I'm not as keen on trading for E Kane as I was Seguin but absolutely I would trade for him.

It's clear that WPG have many of the same issues as EDM in terms of attracting free agent talent so they'd really need to do well for themselves on a Kane trade.

- AlexF

Kane to Van is dead. If Gilly was here it might have happened. Benning wants "high character" guys. He wants to change the culture. Bringing in a guy who has had attitude issues seems to be the exact opposite of what Benning would do.

He's a no nonsense kind of guy and one look through Kane's twitter account and Benning would ship him out. I really wanted Kane though
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:48 AM ET
Kassian's deal right where it should be... How some ppl thought he'd earned more @ this point is beyond me.
- DrChristianTroy

Agreed.. perfect bridge deal
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:48 AM ET
Kassian's deal right where it should be... How some ppl thought he'd earned more @ this point is beyond me.
- DrChristianTroy

I had him at 2 mil max. Nucker and I were both over a little.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:51 AM ET
Kane to Van is dead. If Gilly was here it might have happened. Benning wants "high character" guys. He wants to change the culture. Bringing in a guy who has had attitude issues seems to be the exact opposite of what Benning would do.

He's a no nonsense kind of guy and one look through Kane's twitter account and Benning would ship him out. I really wanted Kane though

- Salient


Maybe Kane doesnt like Winnipeg? Might be a better guy in a market he could develop into a star to be literally worshipped.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:52 AM ET
Maybe Kane doesnt like Winnipeg? Might be a better guy in a market he could develop into a star to be literally worshipped.
- WhatTheNuck

No.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:53 AM ET
Not sure if this is fair value, but would these trades work out?

MTL: Burrows
VAN: 3rd Round Pick

WPG: Jensen, Markstrom and a 2nd
VAN: E. Kane

Not sure if thats fair, but I would think switching Markstrom for Lack wouldn't be a bad idea as well. Like someone said in the comments, when Miller's contract is up, Demko should be NHL ready leaving no room for either Lack or Markstrom.

- Salami


Woah, way too much for Kane! You must be a Jets fan!
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:53 AM ET
Kassian's deal right where it should be... How some ppl thought he'd earned more @ this point is beyond me.
- DrChristianTroy


To be honest, with the terrible year everyone had last year and still come out woth a decent year im surprised he didnt get at least 500k more. Im glad they only gave hik this much but with the way some people get overpaid, he couldve got more im sure especially if he was a UFA.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:54 AM ET
I had him at 2 mil max. Nucker and I were both over a little.
- thundachunk


Yeah, I guessed 2X2.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 4 @ 12:56 AM ET
Kane to Van is dead. If Gilly was here it might have happened. Benning wants "high character" guys. He wants to change the culture. Bringing in a guy who has had attitude issues seems to be the exact opposite of what Benning would do.

He's a no nonsense kind of guy and one look through Kane's twitter account and Benning would ship him out. I really wanted Kane though

- Salient

Hence the Miller signing
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:56 AM ET
No.
- thundachunk


No, because you dont like him? Or because Benning doesnt?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 4 @ 12:58 AM ET
Maybe Kane doesnt like Winnipeg? Might be a better guy in a market he could develop into a star to be literally worshipped.
- WhatTheNuck

Oh that would be great for his ego.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 4 @ 12:58 AM ET
Not sure if this is fair value, but would these trades work out?

MTL: Burrows
VAN: 3rd Round Pick

WPG: Jensen, Markstrom and a 2nd
VAN: E. Kane

Not sure if thats fair, but I would think switching Markstrom for Lack wouldn't be a bad idea as well. Like someone said in the comments, when Miller's contract is up, Demko should be NHL ready leaving no room for either Lack or Markstrom.

- Salami


Not enough cap for him with that trade though. Burr would have to waive and might be hard without that happening.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:59 AM ET
No, because you dont like him? Or because Benning doesnt?
- WhatTheNuck


Benning doesn't. I'd need new pants if we ever traded for him.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:59 AM ET
No, because you dont like him? Or because Benning doesnt?
- WhatTheNuck


No means no.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:00 AM ET
Not enough cap for him with that trade though. Burr would have to waive and might be hard without that happening.
- WhatTheNuck

With Burrows gone, you bet there is!

That being said, it will never happen.
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