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Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jul 3 @ 4:59 PM ET
Took a look at the championship winning team and this one and was surprized at how similar they are.

Losing Kesler is painful, mostly because of another step down the faceoff ladder and the general loss of superstar status. Glad we got younger, but I'm not sure if his skill set has been replaced.

I think this team was deeply hurt by losing Malholtra's defesive zone faceoff ability, and the lack of role players. That's the biggest problem I'm seeing with the team. Gillis was pretty good at finding diamonds in the rough and those really filled out the team with amazing skill, but he was terrible at youth development. I'm worried we have the opposite problem now.

I would keep Burrows as he brings scoring threat, good defensive, grit and can go on any line. Would have kept Santorelli for depth though.

PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:01 PM ET
Hansen+ for the rights to Burmistrov.
- DrChristianTroy


hobo + ham sandwich = would be all over it!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
hobo + ham sandwich = would be all over it!
- PetrolSexual


How long is his KHL deal?
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
He'd be their best goalie.
- Nucker101


markstrom would be their best goalie
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
Exactly.
- Nucker101

Kessel?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
Took a look at the championship winning team and this one and was surprized at how similar they are.

Losing Kesler is painful, mostly because of another step down the faceoff ladder and the general loss of superstar status. Glad we got younger, but I'm not sure if his skill set has been replaced.

I think this team was deeply hurt by losing Malholtra's defesive zone faceoff ability, and the lack of role players. That's the biggest problem I'm seeing with the team. Gillis was pretty good at finding diamonds in the rough and those really filled out the team with amazing skill, but he was terrible at youth development. I'm worried we have the opposite problem now.

I would keep Burrows as he brings scoring threat, good defensive, grit and can go on any line. Would have kept Santorelli for depth though.

- Ronning4ever

Moneyball doesn't = chemistry. I would say Gillis didn't do a horrible job other that drafting and goalies issues Malholtra issue ect... Oh wait yes he did do a horrible job in many areas and he tried to revive a few careers. I defended Gillis a lot in the past but when you break down the good and the bad the good is good not awesome but the bad is pretty f@cking deplorable.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jul 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
How long is his KHL deal?
- Nucker101


"Jul 8, 2013 - Burmistrov, who fell out of favour with coach Claude Noel for a time last season, has signed a two-year deal with Ak Bars Kazan"
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
How long is his KHL deal?
- Nucker101


"at the end of the 2012-13 season, Burmistrov became a restricted free agent and signed a 2-year contract with AK Bars Kazan of the KHL"

So one more year, I wonder if he has an out clause?
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 3 @ 5:07 PM ET
How long is his KHL deal?
- Nucker101


I believe he's entering his last year.

It looks like I'm in a very small minority here but I'd say no to Burmistrov. Seems like way too much baggage to me and there's certainly no guarantee he'll come back.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:09 PM ET
I thought they signed Clemenson? The only problem with trading with NJ is they are in a rebuild or something, and they would be crazy parting with picks and I think that is what we want- along with prospects.
- hillbillydeluxe



CapGeek has schneider as the only guy signed for next year. Zidlicky would be a nice get. we could use a RHD who can play the point on the PP. Problem is I think he just resigned which means you can't trade him I think.... i forget how it works with the CBA when players just re-sign

Corrado+markstrom for Adam Larrsson..... that's all i can see in NJ... rest of the lineup is pretty fugly.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 3 @ 5:09 PM ET
"Jul 8, 2013 - Burmistrov, who fell out of favour with coach Claude Noel for a time last season, has signed a two-year deal with Ak Bars Kazan"
- DrChristianTroy

In all fairness Noel is a very demanding A$$hole who doesn't get along with russkies with attitude. We would be getting a great player but his spirit would have to be broken.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jul 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
I believe he's entering his last year.

It looks like I'm in a very small minority here but I'd say no to Burmistrov. Seems like way too much baggage to me and there's certainly no guarantee he'll come back.

- Canuckleafer


... what baggage?

The fact he chose to go home rather than rot in the WPG press box? I would've done the same thing.
Salient
Vancouver Canucks
Location: House Reed
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:15 PM ET
Prospect camp list:
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 3 @ 5:15 PM ET
"at the end of the 2012-13 season, Burmistrov became a restricted free agent and signed a 2-year contract with AK Bars Kazan of the KHL"

So one more year, I wonder if he has an out clause?

- PetrolSexual


Doesn't the NHL and KHL have a reciprocal agreement to honor a "retirement" if a player wanted to switch leagues?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 3 @ 5:16 PM ET
Do you guys think if we manage to get Burmistrov over you'll finally stop putting Sestito in the mock lineups ?
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 3 @ 5:16 PM ET
... what baggage?

The fact he chose to go home rather than rot in the WPG press box? I would've done the same thing.

- DrChristianTroy


I would have done the same just to avoid playing for WPG, on any line.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 3 @ 5:17 PM ET
CapGeek has schneider as the only guy signed for next year. Zidlicky would be a nice get. we could use a RHD who can play the point on the PP. Problem is I think he just resigned which means you can't trade him I think.... i forget how it works with the CBA when players just re-sign

Corrado+markstrom for Adam Larrsson..... that's all i can see in NJ... rest of the lineup is pretty fugly.

- Mungo


Tuesday, 07.01.2014 / 5:51 PM Clemmensen signs with Devils New Jersey Devils..

http://devils.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724992

Not really sure if Larsson is much of an upgrade on Frankie, brings less offense... but have heard some good things about him.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:17 PM ET
Prospect camp list:

- Salient


nevermind just saw him on there
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:21 PM ET
Tuesday, 07.01.2014 / 5:51 PM Clemmensen signs with Devils New Jersey Devils..

http://devils.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724992

Not really sure if Larsson is much of an upgrade on Frankie, brings less offense... but have heard some good things about him.

- hillbillydeluxe





Clemmer is on a 2 way contract.... 200k in the AHL.... 600k in the NHL.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 3 @ 5:22 PM ET
Clemmer is on a 2 way contract.... 200k in the AHL.... 600k in the NHL.
- Mungo


That is the kind of contract and vet backup we needed...
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 3 @ 5:29 PM ET
Not sure if any of you have seen this:

Santorelli signs for ONE year at $1.5 million with *****drum roll please******** TORONTO!

It just keeps getting better...

Is Vrbat that much better than Santo? I'm starting to feel contempt for this organiziation (not an easy thing to do). Answer me this, is management that stupid or do they still have some rabbit they're going to pull out of their a**
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:30 PM ET
That is the kind of contract and vet backup we needed...
- hillbillydeluxe



the contract yes.... 36 career backup with horrible numbers... not so much
Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:36 PM ET
Moneyball doesn't = chemistry. I would say Gillis didn't do a horrible job other that drafting and goalies issues Malholtra issue ect... Oh wait yes he did do a horrible job in many areas and he tried to revive a few careers. I defended Gillis a lot in the past but when you break down the good and the bad the good is good not awesome but the bad is pretty f@cking deplorable.
- thundachunk


Samuellson, Ehrhoff, Malholtra, Higgins and Santorelli had chemistry with the team. Those were fantastic finds and signings. The Ehrhoff deal was absolute highway robbery.

Samuellson became a 30 goal scorer out of nowhere, Erhfoff a 50 point guy, Malhotra was (for me) the Dennis Rodman of the Canucks and Higgins and Santorelli have been good pick ups. Two Presidents trophies and a SCF appearance is pretty awesome.

The bad is of course the youth - instead of Brandon Saad and Bryan Bickell type players we saw our youth pissed away. The Bernier trade, Ballard trade, Schneider trade and Hodgson trade are the reason we're where we are today IMHO. The Luongo contract was a disaster, but hindsight is 20/20 and a lot of people thought it was a good idea at the time.
eternalcashflow
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.23.2014

Jul 3 @ 5:37 PM ET
Not sure if any of you have seen this:

Santorelli signs for ONE year at $1.5 million with *****drum roll please******** TORONTO!

It just keeps getting better...

Is Vrbat that much better than Santo? I'm starting to feel contempt for this organiziation (not an easy thing to do)

- Zogg


... seriously?
Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jul 3 @ 5:38 PM ET
Not sure if any of you have seen this:

Santorelli signs for ONE year at $1.5 million with *****drum roll please******** TORONTO!

It just keeps getting better...

Is Vrbat that much better than Santo? I'm starting to feel contempt for this organiziation (not an easy thing to do)

- Zogg


Yeah, I wanted him too...but I think Vrbata is likely better...at least he has been over a longer period. But the Canucks feed off of good centres on the bottom six and we're paper thin there at the moment.
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