I agree.

I have no idea what Poile does. But, it seems that it just makes so much sense that he begin a rebuild.
- spatso

I think they can rebuild without having to trade Weber. Defenseman like him can play forever. If Jones develops into a stud dman, you have a great 1-2 punch.

Let's not forget that, at this point, Weber's deal is very team friendly. The poison pill was all the money they had to give up front. They've paid a lot of that money off already.

The Seguin trade for Boston is not looking very good. Especially if they wind up having to trade Loui Ericksson.
- MJL

Reilly Smith's fine, they'll get assets back for Erickson if they do move him or still have the player, Matt Fraser could make their roster as soon as next season.

The only reason people question that deal now is because they lost sooner than anticipated. Nobody was complaining when they won the President's Trophy and looked unbeatable in the Eastern Conference.

Maybe not that much if Couture was in the package. But I know it would Couture plus.
- spatso

They will want a ton for him. I don't think they move him unless it's an overpayment.

Reilly Smith's fine, they'll get assets back for Erickson if they do move him or still have the player, Matt Fraser could make their roster as soon as next season.

The only reason people question that deal now is because they lost sooner than anticipated. Nobody was complaining when they won the President's Trophy and looked unbeatable in the Eastern Conference.
- AllInForFlyers

Seguin needed a change of scenery anyway. It's impossible to say, but I believe he wouldn't have had nearly as much success had he stayed in Boston.

I think the trade woke him up

I think they can rebuild without having to trade Weber. Defenseman like him can play forever. If Jones develops into a stud dman, you have a great 1-2 punch.

Let's not forget that, at this point, Weber's deal is very team friendly. The poison pill was all the money they had to give up front. They've paid a lot of that money off already.
- PhillySportsGuy

Problem is Nashville and Weber are not going anywhere for 3 or 4 years in terms of team success. At some point, they will send Weber somewhere to give him a shot at the Cup. So, why not do it now when you can max out on the return.

Imagine the package Colorado could put together for Weber. Overnight, a very good team like Colorado becomes an elite contender with Weber on their back end.

Seguin needed a change of scenery anyway. It's impossible to say, but I believe he wouldn't have had nearly as much success had he stayed in Boston.

I think the trade woke him up
- PhillySportsGuy

That, and he gets first-line minutes as a center in Dallas. He wasn't getting that in Boston anytime soon, with Krejci and Bergeron there.

Problem is Nashville and Weber are not going anywhere for 3 or 4 years in terms of team success. At some point, they will send Weber somewhere to give him a shot at the Cup. So, why not do it now when you can max out on the return.

Imagine the package Colorado could put together for Weber. Overnight, a very good team like Colorado becomes an elite contender with Weber on their back end.
- spatso

He'll be 31 in 3 years. Weber will be playing at a high level until he's in his late 30s. Like I said, defenseman can play at a high level for a long time. He's not going to be washed up at age 33.

Problem is Nashville and Weber are not going anywhere for 3 or 4 years in terms of team success. At some point, they will send Weber somewhere to give him a shot at the Cup. So, why not do it now when you can max out on the return.

Imagine the package Colorado could put together for Weber. Overnight, a very good team like Colorado becomes an elite contender with Weber on their back end.
- spatso

Yes they could get a ransom. But your also going to have to justify why you matched in the first place then. owners had to pony up out of pocket for this deal. Maybe he will get traded near the end but then you might be getting a player in his declining years. He is right where you want him now. Look how hard it is for the Flyers to find that number one stud. If I am nashville I build around him and jones and make moves with other players.

Also the A's are different and so is baseball. One guy can't change your team becaue there are so many moving parts and limited time to actually affect the game. In hockey the player can have ultiple chances to change the outcome.

Problem is Nashville and Weber are not going anywhere for 3 or 4 years in terms of team success. At some point, they will send Weber somewhere to give him a shot at the Cup. So, why not do it now when you can max out on the return.

Imagine the package Colorado could put together for Weber. Overnight, a very good team like Colorado becomes an elite contender with Weber on their back end.
- spatso

Nashville could have another 10 years and would still be in rebuilding mode as long as Poile is in charge. I think if he could get away with having 5 defensemen on the ice he'd never draft a forward again.

He'll be 31 in 3 years. Weber will be playing at a high level until he's in his late 30s. Like I said, defenseman can play at a high level for a long time. He's not going to be washed up at age 33.
- PhillySportsGuy

I understand what your saying. Weber alone is good enough to help Nashville escape a lottery position in the draft. Maybe Poile needs to think about not wanting to escape this year. This is a good year to sell off assets. Given their luck this year fans could be very understanding.

I understand what your saying. Weber alone is good enough to help Nashville escape a lottery position in the draft. Maybe Poile needs to think about not wanting to escape this year. This is a good year to sell off assets. Given their luck this year fans could be very understanding.
- spatso

If they're that bad, he may want to sit Weber with the unclassified ubi

I understand what your saying. Weber alone is good enough to help Nashville escape a lottery position in the draft. Maybe Poile needs to think about not wanting to escape this year. This is a good year to sell off assets. Given their luck this year fans could be very understanding.
- spatso

Nasvhille wouldn't win the draft lottery anyways. The NHL would want McDavid and Eichel in big hockey markets to expose them everywhere. Just like when the Pens got Crosby over the Ducks. Yes this is my conspiercy theory. Toronto will win the draft lottery with a 2.9 percent chance after missing the playoffs and take McDavid

Yes they could get a ransom. But your also going to have to justify why you matched in the first place then. owners had to pony up out of pocket for this deal. Maybe he will get traded near the end but then you might be getting a player in his declining years. He is right where you want him now. Look how hard it is for the Flyers to find that number one stud. If I am nashville I build around him and jones and make moves with other players.

Also the A's are different and so is baseball. One guy can't change your team becaue there are so many moving parts and limited time to actually affect the game. In hockey the player can have ultiple chances to change the outcome.
- J35Bacher

The minority owner who put up the additional money needed is a Canadian, hockey fan and very savvy investor. He would likely be the most easily convinced on the merit of moving Weber. I think Poile is the only point of resistance. Replace Poile and Weber is gone in a heartbeat.

If they're that bad, he may want to sit Weber with the unclassified ubi
- PhillySportsGuy

I just don't under stand why anyone would trade a Number 1 stud all situations physicall/cannon shot dman. I know the package coming back would be big but then your back looking for the replacement. And I don't think Jones is the replacement for Weber. I don't see the physicality that Weber bings. That intimitadion on the back end. I know he is young still but I don't see it in his game.

Understood.
but to not have them in camp at all just seems like a wasted opportunity.
when I am recruiting kids, the more looks I get the better. Especially firsthand, not just video.
- nails

sounds like the camp is more about developing the existing prospects than a roundup

The minority owner who put up the additional money needed is a Canadian, hockey fan and very savvy investor. He would likely be the most easily convinced on the merit of moving Weber. I think Poile is the only point of resistance. Replace Poile and Weber is gone in a heartbeat.
- spatso

So how would you replace Weber then once you have traded him off? Your selling off the asset that every team covets to get to the cup. You probably just gave away your best asset to bring a cup to Nashville for prospects that might work or might not for a proven number one horse.

I think they can rebuild without having to trade Weber. Defenseman like him can play forever. If Jones develops into a stud dman, you have a great 1-2 punch.

Let's not forget that, at this point, Weber's deal is very team friendly. The poison pill was all the money they had to give up front. They've paid a lot of that money off already.
- PhillySportsGuy

There is still 28M in signing bonus money to be paid out in future years. But a lot of it, I think 39M has already been paid out.

Nasvhille wouldn't win the draft lottery anyways. The NHL would want McDavid and Eichel in big hockey markets to expose them everywhere. Just like when the Pens got Crosby over the Ducks. Yes this is my conspiercy theory. Toronto will win the draft lottery with a 2.9 percent chance after missing the playoffs and take McDavid
- J35Bacher

Hang on this is not just a good draft because of McDavid. There are kids outside the top 10 rankings this coming year who might have been in the running for #1 this year based on their skill set. The draft may go 60 players deep with superior talent, players projected to probably play in the NHL.

This is the year to fail and acquire picks and prospects.

Problem is Nashville and Weber are not going anywhere for 3 or 4 years in terms of team success. At some point, they will send Weber somewhere to give him a shot at the Cup. So, why not do it now when you can max out on the return.

Imagine the package Colorado could put together for Weber. Overnight, a very good team like Colorado becomes an elite contender with Weber on their back end.
- spatso

their #1 goalie missed 3/4 of the season last year and they finished 3 pts out of the playoffs......not sure how this makes it time to tear down and rebuild. we're in freakin' early july.......if poile can get a couple pieces that can score on that team i don't see them not making the playoffs (if they stay healthy)......once a team makes it in anything can happen

This is a bit leight, but I noticed someone had listed the top 10 70s TV shows last night. So, without any futher ado, here are my top 10:

1. MASH
Brilliant writing and acting made this show a treasure. Although set during the Korean War, it was really a commentary on Vietnam and the futility of war in general.

2. All in the Family
Took American comedy into a fresh, new direction. O'Connor's portrayal of Archie Bunker was simply brilliant.

3. Barney Miller
One of the funniest shows ever made. Wish I could find it in reruns!

4. Baretta
My favorite cop drama of the era. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. Classic!

5. Maude
A precursor to All in the Family. Broke ground by being the first show to openly discuss topics like women's liberation and homosexuality.

6. The 6 Million Dollar Man
We can rebuild him, we have the technology. This campy sci-fi/adventure show was just fun. Plus who didn't love seeing Andre the Giant as Bigfoot?

7. Charlies Angels
Farrah Fawcett, the 70s, yum! Hot detectives plus fun, campy stories equals a winner!

8. The Jeffersons
Sherman Helmsley made this show a classic. His portrayal of George Jefferson was awesome, and the show broke new ground by being the first to feature a married interracial couple.

9. Fantasy Island
Utterly silly, but fun. Who can forget the little guy shouting "the plane, the plane!" at the top of his lungs each episode.

10. Kolchak, the Night Stalker
Odd little show, that had a strong cult following. Didn't last long, but I loved it. It was kind of a 70s version of the Twilight Zone with a recurring character and themes.
- BiggE

mash at #1 is right on

but i can't believe there's no love for the bob newhart show

are we not including game shows? i'd have to put match game and price is right on my list.


i don't get this channel but it's awesome

http://antennatv.tv/


whoa this channel got added to my cable, yay!

barney miller sundays at 10

all in the family every weeknight at 9

Reilly Smith's fine, they'll get assets back for Erickson if they do move him or still have the player, Matt Fraser could make their roster as soon as next season.

The only reason people question that deal now is because they lost sooner than anticipated. Nobody was complaining when they won the President's Trophy and looked unbeatable in the Eastern Conference.
- AllInForFlyers

Reilly Smith is a nice player, but he's not likely ever going to be as good as Seguin. What assets will they get back for Ericksson?
People are questioning the deal because the Bruins gave up a star player because they lost patience with his immaturity. Now they got in deep having to overpay Iginla with bonuses that resulted in a huge overage, and are searching for a winger to play with Krecji. It's not looking like a good trade for the Bruins

That, and he gets first-line minutes as a center in Dallas. He wasn't getting that in Boston anytime soon, with Krejci and Bergeron there.
- AllInForFlyers

He could get first line minutes as a Winger. He had a 29 goal 67 point season playing as a Winger in Boston.

Reilly Smith is a nice player, but he's not likely ever going to be as good as Seguin. What assets will they get back for Ericksson?
People are questioning the deal because the Bruins gave up a star player because they lost patience with his immaturity. Now they got in deep having to overpay Iginla with bonuses that resulted in a huge overage, and are searching for a winger to play with Krecji. It's not looking like a good trade for the Bruins
- MJL

I think your exactly right. I think if the Bruins had just made one mistake (eg Seguin) they could have adjusted and reduced the damages. But, the fact is they added to the problem (Iginla) and left themselves no space to fix the problem.

http://antennatv.tv/


whoa this channel got added to my cable, yay!

barney miller sundays at 10

all in the family every weeknight at 9
- -davies-

thanks for that. I just added alfred hitchcock presents to my dvr schedule.

Because they are not the leafs, if they dont win fans wont show up down there.
- PhillaBully

You must not be all that familiar with their fan base.