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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
ugh yeah. those teams that lose game 7s in the second round essentially need to be blown up
- stayinthefnnet


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
Meltzer on the Buzzfeed today at 1.

Might be the sole time I watch it.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
You're team is going to be just fine.
- MJL

i actually just may have to backread. i think the seguin situation is an intriguing one.

and you two seem to be fairly embroiled here
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
not below Meh, but not that far above it either.

I wonder if its complete, because i have to think theyre at least pondering potential movements with sutter/paul martin for respective reasons.

but i like the erhoff deal. i think he bolts after this year, but still for this season its a good value at least. i dont think they lost anything FA wise that will be a killer. niskanen going should be replaced by hoff. the neal for hornqvist deal i still have mixed feelings about.

the bottom 6 should be better with the cheapy deals given out, but the top 6 is still placing a hell of a lot of hope on a wish and a prayer. but realistically, what can be done? everyone could use another top 6 winger.

- stayinthefnnet

... and 10 mil more in cap space.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:56 PM ET
So you're saying that in today's game Foote would be a 3rd pair defenseman? If so I couldn't disagree less. Foote would be a top pairing defenseman in today's game. Just as he was in his prime in his playing days.
- MJL


stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 12:58 PM ET
... and 10 mil more in cap space.
- mayorofangrytown

you mean that what teams could use? or what the pens gained?

because yeah, ill definitely take some more cap space haha. by the time the pens sign their rfas, theyill be up against the ceiling.

but even if the cap wasnt an issue for the pens or flyers, right now, the players worth spending it on seem few and far between.

granted, i guess they both could have been better players in giving kulemin 4 and change a year long term, but hey you win some you lose some.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
i actually just may have to backread. i think the seguin situation is an intriguing one.

and you two seem to be fairly embroiled here

- stayinthefnnet


I wouldn't be embroiled if it wasn't a case of somebody always "inventing straw men" and "engaging in hyperbole" when there are solid arguments against everything that is being said on his end.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
THIS PERSON IS NOT SANE!!!!!

Spence Mccavera: seriously id watch Ek over the tsn or sportsnet panels GOD i hate bob mckenzie lol
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:01 PM ET
not below Meh, but not that far above it either.

I wonder if its complete, because i have to think theyre at least pondering potential movements with sutter/paul martin for respective reasons.

but i like the erhoff deal. i think he bolts after this year, but still for this season its a good value at least. i dont think they lost anything FA wise that will be a killer. niskanen going should be replaced by hoff. the neal for hornqvist deal i still have mixed feelings about.

the bottom 6 should be better with the cheapy deals given out, but the top 6 is still placing a hell of a lot of hope on a wish and a prayer. but realistically, what can be done? everyone could use another top 6 winger.

- stayinthefnnet


I think you guys had a decent offseason. Getting Ehrhoff was huge. He'll help bridge the gap to the young guys. Still don't love your bottom six but goc and Downie will probably help. Losing jokinen and Neal definitely hurts the top 6. Hornqvist simply doesn't bring the things Neal does offensively. I think much of your season will be about which Letang you guys get
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:02 PM ET
I wouldn't be embroiled if it wasn't a case of somebody always "inventing straw men" and "engaging in hyperbole" when there are solid arguments against everything that is being said on his end.
- AllInForFlyers


hey you guys dont need to justify yourselves to me.

sort of name calling and sheer ridiculousness, its all in good fun in my eyes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:02 PM ET
Tyler Seguin will win the next 80 Hart Trophies...if he kills Jason Akeson.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
I think you guys had a decent offseason. Getting Ehrhoff was huge. He'll help bridge the gap to the young guys. Still don't love your bottom six but goc and Downie will probably help. Losing jokinen and Neal definitely hurts the top 6. Hornqvist simply doesn't bring the things Neal does offensively. I think much of your season will be about which Letang you guys get
- PhillySportsGuy


Ehrhoff > Niskanen
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
... and 10 mil more in cap space.
- mayorofangrytown



Can you update blog. i can't get it to play at work. Was curious to what bill would say
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
The look on Bill's face - "This is a waste of my time"
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
I think you guys had a decent offseason. Getting Ehrhoff was huge. He'll help bridge the gap to the young guys. Still don't love your bottom six but goc and Downie will probably help. Losing jokinen and Neal definitely hurts the top 6. Hornqvist simply doesn't bring the things Neal does offensively. I think much of your season will be about which Letang you guys get
- PhillySportsGuy


that last part. 100 percent.

realistically though. not to sound haughty, but i think regardless of the glaring issues, the team should make the postseason.

what they do when they get there defines the season. and im not foolish enough to think cup or bust. but, there are different ways to lose. i understand the end results are the same, but bowing out in a hard fought 7 game series to boston is something that as a fan sucks but you can accept. the past few postseasons however...
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
Ehrhoff > Niskanen
- jmatchett383

yup.

i think ehrhoff puts up 50/60 points this year, and leaves in the offseason on a 5 year deal with a significant raise. from another team of course.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
hey you guys dont need to justify yourselves to me.

sort of name calling and sheer ridiculousness, its all in good fun in my eyes.

- stayinthefnnet


It is in good fun, and I shouldn't even discuss this stuff on these boards to begin with with some folks. There's nothing to be gained from it and it lessens the fun of talking about the sport
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
Tyler Seguin will win the next 80 Hart Trophies...if he kills Jason Akeson.
- jmatchett383


he should eat his heart and absorb his essence.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:06 PM ET
Ehrhoff > Niskanen
- jmatchett383


Definitely
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:06 PM ET
yup.

i think ehrhoff puts up 50/60 points this year, and leaves in the offseason on a 5 year deal with a significant raise. from another team of course.

- stayinthefnnet


I wouldn't be so sure. If he has a good season, I could see them moving someone in order to accommodate a salary for him.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:06 PM ET
Can you update blog. i can't get it to play at work. Was curious to what bill would say
- J35Bacher

Talking Rynas to Dallas and Margate elephants. If he has anything Flyers related to say I'll post. It's unwatchable by the way.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
yup.

i think ehrhoff puts up 50/60 points this year, and leaves in the offseason on a 5 year deal with a significant raise. from another team of course.

- stayinthefnnet


60 points should get him 6 x 6.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...eps-hockey-151029533.html

5'11 185... pretty sure she could kick my ass.

- Tomahawk


Hello, Mr LongClitsome
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:08 PM ET
I wouldn't be so sure. If he has a good season, I could see them moving someone in order to accommodate a salary for him.
- WarriorHockey21

well. fleurys deal will be up then.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:08 PM ET
60 points should get him 6 x 6.
- Feanor

yup.

but i really dont think pushing 60 is hyperbole for him should he be healthy.
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