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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
For the Sabres' sake, I'm glad this happened now, and as early as possible. That way, they don't have to sit around and hope things break down between Kane and the Blackhawks.
- buffalofan19



Watch for the Ryan talk to start mid way through next season.
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:34 PM ET
Both making 10.5 holy (frank)
- GERBE!!!75PTS


That's crazy money they will have to have AHL players for life ..

did they forget there is a cap

- gerbe75pts


Too many Gizmos, I can only handle one.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
Short term though, the cap hits basically mean that any improvements to the team are going to have to come from within. As stashu just posted, they've got close to 66 mil committed to 15 players for 15-16.

I suspect that for the next few years (i mean once their extensions kick in) they could wind up looking like the Hawks from a few years back, the version that had the one and done's in the playoffs.

- Sabresfan-365

Chicago is going to be bad in a few years.

They will be a revolving door of good players leaving annually
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
Wtf is Stamkos going to get now ..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:36 PM ET
Too many Gizmos, I can only handle one.
- Tsyolin



buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
Wtf is Stamkos going to get now ..
- gerbe75pts



Probably the same amount, possibly $11 million. And he's worth it. The big difference is: there's only one of him to sign.

I don't think Chicago is in as much trouble as people think. There's going to be some growing pains, but replacing good players is much, much easier than replacing great ones.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
Yes. They probably will. The age of the dynasty is gone. The fact is they already have gone through this song and dance once before, and ended up with another cup out of it. The key is to identify as early as possible who you are most likely going to retain, and who you are most likely going to lose as a casualty. That would mean probably looking to trade (though for a hefty price) the likes of a Brandon Saad sooner rather than later.
- buffalofan19

Not really.... Kane and Toews were locked up at 6.3 mil. Not 20+ for the both


They will have less depth than they did when they won their 2nd cupo
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:41 PM ET
Not really.... Kane and Toews were locked up at 6.3 mil. Not 20+ for the both


They will have less depth than they did when they won their 2nd cupo

- sbroads24



In an era where the cap was considerably less.
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
I dunno how I'd feel about Murry ever giving this sort of money to our future stars (assuming we get any). This sort of money just seems like too much no matter what way you look at it. I'm certain you could have gotten them to resign for 2 mil cheaper.
Themomentgood
Joined: 03.16.2014

Jul 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
According to capgeek for the 2015-16 season Chicago has 8 players that are either rfa's or ufa's and just over 3 million in capspace. Now the cap is going to go up, but not that much. They are going to have to get really creative with their roster to go from 15 players to a full roster.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:44 PM ET
According to capgeek for the 2015-16 season Chicago has 8 players that are either rfa's or ufa's and just over 3 million in capspace. Now the cap is going to go up, but not that much. They are going to have to get really creative with their roster to go from 15 players to a full roster.
- Themomentgood



I just have a hard time believing that a franchise like Chicago hasn't considered that already, and hasn't formulated some sort of plan already either.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
I dunno how I'd feel about Murry ever giving this sort of money to our future stars (assuming we get any). This sort of money just seems like too much no matter what way you look at it. I'm certain you could have gotten them to resign for 2 mil cheaper.
- Tsyolin



If you get even just one cup, it's worth it.

Also, these guys probably would have got even more (albeit separately) on the open market. There was no way they'd sign for any cheaper.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
When the Sabres are good in a few years I could see them attempting to trade for Kane as that final piece. He will have considerable term left on his deal and if the Hawks are having trouble fielding a competitive squad because they are paying two players all that scratch the Sabres may not give up as much as we might imagine.
Themomentgood
Joined: 03.16.2014

Jul 9 @ 1:49 PM ET
I just have a hard time believing that a franchise like Chicago hasn't considered that already, and hasn't formulated some sort of plan already either.
- buffalofan19


Of course they have. Its going to be interesting to see what they do.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
Chicago is going to be bad in a few years.

They will be a revolving door of good players leaving annually

- sbroads24


They've been that way since their first cup. Good teams can keep a handful of starts and try to be destination for others on short contracts. Same with Pittsburgh. It will hurt in the short term but they will be fine in the long term.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:56 PM ET
They've been that way since their first cup. Good teams can keep a handful of starts and try to be destination for others on short contracts. Same with Pittsburgh. It will hurt in the short term but they will be fine in the long term.
- Slump Buster



Exactly. They just locked up two first ballot hall of famers in their mid twenties. It's a lot easier to build around that then a bunch of simply good players.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
Good I didn't want Kane in Buffalo, 10.5 mill is a joke.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Good I didn't want Kane in Buffalo, 10.5 mill is a joke.
- SABRES 89



For a first ballot hall of famer at the age of 26?
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
Exactly. They just locked up two first ballot hall of famers in their mid twenties. It's a lot easier to build around that then a bunch of simply good players.
- buffalofan19



Not to mention they have Saad, Teravainen, Shaw, etc. that are going to be just fine for them going forward
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Not to mention they have Saad, Teravainen, Shaw, etc. that are going to be just fine for them going forward
- grand-magus


Saad and Shaw will need paydays much sooner than that Finnish-dude-I-won't-attempt-to-spell.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
They've been that way since their first cup. Good teams can keep a handful of starts and try to be destination for others on short contracts. Same with Pittsburgh. It will hurt in the short term but they will be fine in the long term.
- Slump Buster

I actually think it's the opposite.

They have benefitted from good draft picks from when they were still drafting high

The lower you draft the less talent you get, also when you are a contender you tend to trade picks/prospects at the deadline.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Not to mention they have Saad, Teravainen, Shaw, etc. that are going to be just fine for them going forward
- grand-magus



I have a feeling at least one of those guys are going to be traded sooner rather than later, in order to get max value and not have to worry about losing leverage in contract negotiations.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
I actually think it's the opposite.

They have benefitted from good draft picks from when they were still drafting high

The lower you draft the less talent you get, also when you are a contender you tend to trade picks/prospects at the deadline.

- sbroads24


Yep, I'm with you on this. Look at Pittsburgh.

No one's gonna say they suck, cuz obviously they don't, but they feel the crunch as well and haven't been able to achieve the ultimate success again despite having 2 of the best players in the league plus a solid goalie as their stars.

It'll be interesting to see LA in a couple years
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
I actually think it's the opposite.

They have benefitted from good draft picks from when they were still drafting high

The lower you draft the less talent you get, also when you are a contender you tend to trade picks/prospects at the deadline.

- sbroads24



They'll be good in 2015, need some retooling in 2016 and probably 2017, and they'll be back in contention in 2018.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:06 PM ET
Exactly. They just locked up two first ballot hall of famers in their mid twenties. It's a lot easier to build around that then a bunch of simply good players.
- buffalofan19

Again, it becomes a math equation, and so far the 2 superstar teams have yet to figure it out. Pittsburgh and Anaheim for example have had trouble building depth and have actually moved key pieces (Staal, B. Ryan) in order to obtain it.
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