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grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
Saad and Shaw will need paydays much sooner than that Finnish-dude-I-won't-attempt-to-spell.
- stashu






I had to look it up myself
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
They'll be good in 2015, need some retooling in 2016 and probably 2017, and they'll be back in contention in 2018.
- buffalofan19

It all depends. All it ensures is that they will be a pretty good team for a while, which is great, but as seen in Pitt the standards become incredibly high when you have 2 superstars that have won a cup.

Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:09 PM ET
Good I didn't want Kane in Buffalo, 10.5 mill is a joke.
- SABRES 89



That team will no doubt feel the crunch under the cap and the teams overall success will be hurt. But they have to do what they have to do. Pat is mutherf***ing rich.

grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
I have a feeling at least one of those guys are going to be traded sooner rather than later, in order to get max value and not have to worry about losing leverage in contract negotiations.
- buffalofan19



That's possible, but it's not like there will be chump change coming back in a trade like that.

I give their management full props for juggling that roster year over year and still being a contender.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
Well, if the cap remains the same next year, which it won't, but if it did, the Hawks have 3.2 million dollars to sign Saad, Richards or his replacement, Kruger, Leddy, Oduya or his replacement, Rozsival or his replacement and Rundblad. Should be entertaining to say the least.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
If Chicago gets another cup within the next 4 years and consistently goes deep in the playoffs for the next 4 or 5 (WCF at least twice) I think that's considered a win. You have to pay big money to win it all and if it works then they made the right move. If they fall out of the playoffs in the first or second round for the next 6 years like the Penguins have done (aside from 12-13 when they were swept in the ECF) then itll look like the killer.

tl;dr: If it works they look like geniuses, if not they'll be idiots.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
I actually think it's the opposite.

They have benefitted from good draft picks from when they were still drafting high

The lower you draft the less talent you get, also when you are a contender you tend to trade picks/prospects at the deadline.

- sbroads24


The long term works because the cap has always gone up by crazy amounts. When it is 90 mill in a few years this won't be so bad at all. They already had a huge talent dump off and survived just fine. They will again.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
Well, if the cap remains the same next year, which it won't, but if it did, the Hawks have 3.2 million dollars to sign Saad, Richards or his replacement, Kruger, Leddy, Oduya or his replacement, Rozsival or his replacement and Rundblad. Should be entertaining to say the least.
- TheSabresTaco

Now Sharp and Hossa look to be out the door, and a bunch of scrubs to play the 3-6 defense slots.

IMO unless the cap really goes up, they will be a very,very different team in 2 years
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
Now Sharp and Hossa look to be out the door, and a bunch of scrubs to play the 3-6 defense slots.

IMO unless the cap really goes up, they will be a very,very different team in 2 years

- sbroads24


Sharp yes, Hossa probably not as his salary is very reasonable. Also, is he subject to the early retirement penalty?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
The long term works because the cap has always gone up by crazy amounts. When it is 90 mill in a few years this won't be so bad at all. They already had a huge talent dump off and survived just fine. They will again.
- Slump Buster


The cap wont reach that high while these contracts are still in place. The main reason for the big jump is the TV deal that was signed in Canada, but the Canadian $ isn't as strong as it was so I don't see anything that crazy happening in regards to a 90 million salary cap
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
The cap wont reach that high while these contracts are still in place. The main reason for the big jump is the TV deal that was signed in Canada, but the Canadian $ isn't as strong as it was so I don't see anything that crazy happening in regards to a 90 million salary cap
- Stripes77

90 mil is nuts . There will be teams that cannot afford to make it to the cap floor.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
.@ArthurJRegner said #Sabres begin trade talks for Tyler Myers with Anthony Mantha, but #RedWings not willing to trade him.

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
The cap wont reach that high while these contracts are still in place. The main reason for the big jump is the TV deal that was signed in Canada, but the Canadian $ isn't as strong as it was so I don't see anything that crazy happening in regards to a 90 million salary cap
- Stripes77



It has always gone up by crazy amounts - almost always more than we think it will. That's part of the reason why we keep having lockouts.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
.@ArthurJRegner said #Sabres begin trade talks for Tyler Myers with Anthony Mantha, but #RedWings not willing to trade him.


- Jurco_28

Deal won't be done here. Murray wants a massive overpayment to move Myers and Holland isn't stupid
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
Deal won't be done here. Murray wants a massive overpayment to move Myers and Holland isn't stupid
- sbroads24


dont know considering he trade Jarnkrok and a 2nd for 4th liner david legwand

but with that said. I think your right. theyd only trade Mantha if it was for like a Shea Weber.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
dont know considering he trade Jarnkrok and a 2nd for 4th liner david legwand
- Jurco_28

Personally I wouldn't move Myers for Mantha straight up, and apparently Murray wants 3 pieces, Mantha, a roster player and a pick. I doubt a trade is made.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
Personally I wouldn't move Myers for Mantha straight up, and apparently Murray wants 3 pieces, Mantha, a roster player and a pick. I doubt a trade is made.
- sbroads24

ya too much. I like Myers due to his size, youth and Chara-like potential but the wings cant take a gamble like that in hope he turns out like that.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
ya too much. I like Myers due to his size, youth and Chara-like potential but the wings cant take a gamble like that in hope he turns out like that.
- Jurco_28


any less than mantha and it turns into a spare parts deal for our best player, who happens to be 6'8" and a potential perennial all star. gotta give to get.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:26 PM ET
http://youtu.be/aR6znfM20C8
- dadeadhead

I love those guys
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
It has always gone up by crazy amounts - almost always more than we think it will. That's part of the reason why we keep having lockouts.
- Slump Buster


You do know its a revenue related formula...It took a 12 year 5.2 Billion dollar TV deal for the cap to go up 9 million, on top of a 12% increase in general revenue. Where is the extra revenue going to come from to get the cap up to $90 Million??
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
Hawks just made their own grave ..

they are so (frank)ed

- GERBE!!!75PTS

no they are (frank)ed if they let one walk in 12 months


damn you have much to learn
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
1 birdie

80 on the course

bogey on 18


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
. Where is the extra revenue going to come from to get the cap up to $90 Million??
- Stripes77

$12 beers





easy hattie
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
$12 beers





easy hattie

- homiedclown



I know of a few people that could drink enough to boost that revenue a few million dollars not enough to fill a NHL arena
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:39 PM ET
any less than mantha and it turns into a spare parts deal for our best player, who happens to be 6'8" and a potential perennial all star. gotta give to get.
- rover16

Mantha is intriguing, but still a risk.

Personally, I think Armia could turn out to be an excellent option to ride shotgun with Reinhart
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