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rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:29 PM ET
and the sabres could have 5 picks in the top 35 for the 2015 draft
- homiedclown


what do you suppose happened this year that prevented murray from moving back into the first round? everybody has seen those charts that suggest the values for each pick (ie the 10th overall is worth approximately the 17th overall and the 35th). i would like to see murray parlay a couple of those picks into a player that has a geater probability of hitting. need a dance partner though.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
what do you suppose happened this year that prevented murray from moving back into the first round? everybody has seen those charts that suggest the values for each pick (ie the 10th overall is worth approximately the 17th overall and the 35th). i would like to see murray parlay a couple of those picks into a player that has a geater probability of hitting. need a dance partner though.
- rover16


He said he offered a team all three 2nds to move back into the first, and said team didn't bite. The answer is that GM's pay no attention to that chart.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:33 PM ET
Now that Central Scouting's futures list is officially released, what's the over under on the amount of times that McDavid and Eichel trade spots at 1 & 2? As we all have seen for the past couple of years, NHL teams don't seem to take their rankings very seriously, and they seem to exist more as headline grabbers than anything else.
- buffalofan19



over under is 2

I'll take the under.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 8 @ 1:33 PM ET
Gaustad will never get us a first.
- Der Kaiser



Schultz for Hogan and Hilda.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:36 PM ET
Schultz for Hogan and Hilda.
- mhp


Throw in LeBeau and we can talk.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 8 @ 1:38 PM ET
Throw in LeBeau and we can talk.
- Der Kaiser


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:39 PM ET
over under is 2

I'll take the under.

- dadeadhead



That would imply that either McDavid goes wire to wire, or Eichel takes the spot in the first quarter or mid-season and stays there.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:42 PM ET
I totally disagree with all/most of this.

A flooded market didn't hurt, the value of M. st.Louis, or Vanek early in the yr. did it? Yet in every case last yr, the scoring wingers who were delt closer to the deadline yielded less. It was supply & demand. The smart play was to strike quick, still that's totally in control of a GM. But that doesn't mean a good return was unheard of, just trickier to navigate.

To peg Vanek as the scapegoat for MTL's loss to the NYR is ill-informed as well. That series had everything to do with Cary Price being injured by a NYR cheap shot. Price is amongst the top goalies in the league, & MTL needed him to keep pace with Lundquist... Simple as that.

- SuperCat



Vanek got less because Wang refused to retain money in the deal. Per reports, Snow had better deals lined up if he'd have retained money. He couldn't, hence why he got as little for him as he did.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:43 PM ET
That would imply that either McDavid goes wire to wire, or Eichel takes the spot in the first quarter or mid-season and stays there.
- buffalofan19



buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:44 PM ET

- dadeadhead



I think in reality you will be correct. However, my question was about Central Scouting alone. As history shows, they just can't seem to help themselves.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:46 PM ET
That would imply that either McDavid goes wire to wire, or Eichel takes the spot in the first quarter or mid-season and stays there.
- buffalofan19

I think McDavid stays, although I think Eichel is one hell of a prospect too.

Next year it will be different, no one besides those two will be ranked in the top 2 IMO. As opposed to Draisaitl being the #1 at some points mid-season, then to Bennett, then finally to Ekblad. I think it's McDavid and Eichel.... Sort of like RG3 and Luck
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:46 PM ET
Schultz for Hogan and Hilda.
- mhp

maybe we could add Card and Funk to sweeten the deal?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:49 PM ET
Ennis for Sam Gagner.
- Der Kaiser



http://youtu.be/XlqkT738XD8
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
I think in reality you will be correct. However, my question was about Central Scouting alone. As history shows, they just can't seem to help themselves.
- buffalofan19



true.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
for homie

http://youtu.be/LAEhp2Uzl9Q
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 2:13 PM ET
I think McDavid stays, although I think Eichel is one hell of a prospect too.

Next year it will be different, no one besides those two will be ranked in the top 2 IMO. As opposed to Draisaitl being the #1 at some points mid-season, then to Bennett, then finally to Ekblad. I think it's McDavid and Eichel.... Sort of like RG3 and Luck

- sbroads24



I think the only possibility for change is if one or both get hurt in a major way (concussion(s), ACL, etc.).
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:15 PM ET
I think the only possibility for change is if one or both get hurt in a major way (concussion(s), ACL, etc.).
- thatsapickle



Even then I'm not sure there's a change.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 2:29 PM ET
Even then I'm not sure there's a change.
- dadeadhead



I was also thinking that, but that is the only slim chance that either one gets booted from the top 2 spots. It's even slimmer that Eichel takes over the chosen McDavid too. Unless Eichel puts up 300 points this year.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 2:29 PM ET
for homie

http://youtu.be/LAEhp2Uzl9Q

- dadeadhead




oh my
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 2:32 PM ET
what do you suppose happened this year that prevented murray from moving back into the first round? everybody has seen those charts that suggest the values for each pick (ie the 10th overall is worth approximately the 17th overall and the 35th). i would like to see murray parlay a couple of those picks into a player that has a geater probability of hitting. need a dance partner though.
- rover16

the player he wanted was off the board
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:40 PM ET



oh my

- homiedclown




http://youtu.be/SyjehBU3yM4
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
maybe we could add Card and Funk to sweeten the deal?
- IndianaSabresFan



throw in the apple and done.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:42 PM ET
throw in the apple and done.
- mhp



Fvck the apple, I hope he rots.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 2:42 PM ET
http://youtu.be/SyjehBU3yM4
- dadeadhead



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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 8 @ 2:43 PM ET


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