I have to agree... Looks great on paper.. but I don't know if Buffalo is exactly going ot change his tune or make him level up.
- JVince11

He's one of those guys that strikes me as someone that won't be happy unless he's in the spotlight in the bigger markets with a quick shot at the Cup. Considering how ravenous they are in Winnepeg for the Jets, Kane could live like a king. Just the fact that he's turning his back on such a huge hockey market speaks volumes I think.

I don't think NHL ready players are traded for conditional 7th round picks unless their name is John Scott. Wait. He went for a 5th to the Rangers.
- TheSabresTaco

Well this team has no depth whatsoever and the kid is 24 so I wouldn't say he isn't ready to be called up or something. Also, Carcillo was traded from the Kings to Rangers for a 7th but not conditional. The difference is that Samuels-Thomas is a project while Carcillo has NHL experience

So when are they shipping big Tyler's lanky azz outta here?
- Carubba-Kaleta

oh good... this topic to discuss...

Whew.. i feel like it hasn't been discussed in at least 2-3 hours.

oh good... this topic to discuss...

Whew.. i feel like it hasn't been discussed in at least 2-3 hours.
- JVince11

Sorry champ, I don't live on here!

He's one of those guys that strikes me as someone that won't be happy unless he's in the spotlight in the bigger markets with a quick shot at the Cup. Considering how ravenous they are in Winnepeg for the Jets, Kane could live like a king. Just the fact that he's turning his back on such a huge hockey market speaks volumes I think.
- Poopspawn

i think he is more-so sick of losing and being on a team that can't attract better players or spend up to the cap limit to put talent on the ice around him. I thought I read somewhere that he is mad about Burmistov defecting too.

Sorry champ, I don't live on here!
- Carubba-Kaleta

Thanks Captain but I can stop in once a week and see it is beaten bad...

oh good... this topic to discuss...

Whew.. i feel like it hasn't been discussed in at least 2-3 hours.
- JVince11

So...ummm...don't participate and instead start your own?

Wow...

Looking back at WPG/ATL's draft history for the last few years.. there is maybe 6 guys who I even recognize their names over the past 5 years.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00010675.html

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00004682.html

That is just AWFUL drafting.

I see why E. Kane would be mad.. he has nothing to work with.

Wow...

Looking back at WPG/ATL's draft history for the last few years.. there is maybe 6 guys who I even recognize their names over the past 5 years.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00010675.html

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00004682.html

That is just AWFUL drafting.

I see why E. Kane would be mad.. he has nothing to work with.
- JVince11

Nicolas Petan is going to be a beast in the NHL

Wow...

Looking back at WPG/ATL's draft history for the last few years.. there is maybe 6 guys who I even recognize their names over the past 5 years.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00010675.html

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00004682.html

That is just AWFUL drafting.

I see why E. Kane would be mad.. he has nothing to work with.
- JVince11

Eliminate the last 2/3 years just cuz they're too new...but yeah...ouch. Almost none have ever hit the NHL even for spot time or something

Jeremy Rutherford ‏@jprutherford 6m
#stlblues have re-signed Steve Ott to a two-year extension worth $5.2 million.
- JVince11

Good.

He's one of those guys that strikes me as someone that won't be happy unless he's in the spotlight in the bigger markets with a quick shot at the Cup. Considering how ravenous they are in Winnepeg for the Jets, Kane could live like a king. Just the fact that he's turning his back on such a huge hockey market speaks volumes I think.
- Poopspawn

I blame the jerseys. The Winnipeg jersey/logo is terrible. No player wants to wear that trash.

Good.
- sambarugh

Makes sense given that they lost Sobotka to the KHL (imo someone we really should have gone after for our bottom six)

Makes sense given that they lost Sobotka to the KHL (imo someone we really should have gone after for our bottom six)
- Sabresfan-365

Meh for what.. Thought the whole point was to finish last and rebuild. No sense in bringing back another retread for a run to 9th. Wake me up when we are good again.

Meh for what.. Thought the whole point was to finish last and rebuild. No sense in bringing back another retread for a run to 9th. Wake me up when we are good again.
- Carubba-Kaleta

Believe it or not, some people don't want to tank. They love 9th place.

Meh for what.. Thought the whole point was to finish last and rebuild. No sense in bringing back another retread for a run to 9th. Wake me up when we are good again.
- Carubba-Kaleta

I'm talking about Sobotka not Ott in case you were wondering. He's 26/27, good possession numbers and much better on the dot than Ott was ever given credit for. And his numbers suggest that unless he's been hanging out with A-rod's doctor he's probably not going to be putting up big numbers (hurting the tank if you will).

He would've been a solid add short term and long term. Even if you (not saying you specifically) believe the rebuild will take a while, he'll still be late twenties/early thirties and probably just as effective (if not more once surrounded with better talent).

Believe it or not, some people don't want to tank. They love 9th place.
- sambarugh

Ya that's a great plan let's start by changing the name "hockey heaven" to hockey purgatory while we're at it. Cause truly that's what buffalo sports emulate!!

Eliminate the last 2/3 years just cuz they're too new...but yeah...ouch. Almost none have ever hit the NHL even for spot time or something
- stashu

I think Dudley should have stayed as GM and Ramsey as coach when they moved from Atlanta . They had things going in the right direction.

I feel real bad for the 40+ year old fans. Being a fan of the big two franchises of buffalo has the equivalence of putting your balls in a vice and giving yourself one slow turn each day.

Wow...

Looking back at WPG/ATL's draft history for the last few years.. there is maybe 6 guys who I even recognize their names over the past 5 years.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00010675.html

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00004682.html

That is just AWFUL drafting.

I see why E. Kane would be mad.. he has nothing to work with.
- JVince11

I'm a fan of the Sabres just like you but in the 2000s we had way too many first round busts. Kryukov (2000 #15), Novotny (2001 #22), Zagrapan (2005 #13), Persson (2006 #24), No first in 2007 and good drafts after that. After 2009, you really can't determine who is a bust yet. Kassian is debate himself so I rank him as not a bust. But, not counting 2007, we went 4/9 in drafting in the first round in the 2000s. That's nearly a 50% bust rate. That's not good at all. Our drafting in deeper rounds was good in certain years but we need to nail every first rounder now and when we contending or else we won't have much new talent and we'll have to break apart the team like we did in the past two seasons. So, if we had better players out of those drafts, it might've prevented us from being where we are now. I know we can't get every pick right but if we improved to a 7/9 it could change depending on how significant the player is. Just stirring the pot.

Ya that's a great plan let's start by changing the name "hockey heaven" to hockey purgatory while we're at it. Cause truly that's what buffalo sports emulate!!
- Carubba-Kaleta

Tell me about it. I am fine with losing every game this season for the best end result. People are just impatient I guess.

Tell me about it. I am fine with losing every game this season for the best end result. People are just impatient I guess.
- sambarugh

Except against the islanders.

I'm a fan of the Sabres just like you but in the 2000s we had way too many first round busts. Kryukov (2000 #15), Novotny (2001 #22), Zagrapan (2005 #13), Persson (2006 #24), No first in 2007 and good drafts after that. After 2009, you really can't determine who is a bust yet. Kassian is debate himself so I rank him as not a bust. But, not counting 2007, we went 4/9 in drafting in the first round in the 2000s. That's nearly a 50% bust rate. That's not good at all. Our drafting in deeper rounds was good in certain years but we need to nail every first rounder now and when we contending or else we won't have much new talent and we'll have to break apart the team like we did in the past two seasons. So, if we had better players out of those drafts, it might've prevented us from being where we are now. I know we can't get every pick right but if we improved to a 7/9 it could change depending on how significant the player is. Just stirring the pot.
- SabresNHL

I certainly know that we have had our issues.. I was not saying that we are the pillar of drafting in the NHL. I was not trying to be a hypocrite but just looking into why their pipeline is so bad.

Except against the islanders.
- Themomentgood

I always love beating Philly, Boston, NYI, OTT, and TML...

don't really care a whole lot about the others but those teams... I LOOOOOOOVE to beat.

Except against the islanders.
- Themomentgood

A 1-0 win with a JT injury would be ideal for the first NYI game.