Yeah, he sucks.
- smellmyfinger

Yeah, that's what I said.

Yeah, he sucks.
- smellmyfinger

I'm not saying he is not a good goalie but lets be realistic here. Lets put games played and wins next to those stats to see a players contract value.
average GP/Wins 2010-2014
Schneider 31/17
rask 35/19
lundquist 58/33
Luongo 47/26
Price 62/30
Rinne 51/25
Bobrosky 43/24
Qucik 53/29
Miller 56/27
Let Cory play a full season before you compare him tpo the top goaltenders in the league.

Yeah, he sucks.
- smellmyfinger

cancel the season.

I'm not saying he is not a good goalie but lets be realistic here. Lets put games played and wins next to those stats to see a players contract value.
average GP/Wins 2010-2014
Schneider 31/17 = 54.8%
rask 35/19 = 54.3%
lundquist 58/33 = 56.9%
Luongo 47/26 = 55.3%
Price 62/30 = 48.4%
Rinne 51/25 = 49.0%
Bobrosky 43/24 = 55.8%
Qucik 53/29 = 54.7%
Miller 56/27 = 48.2%
Let Cory play a full season before you compare him tpo the top goaltenders in the league.
- lileapers

Edited with the win percentage for games played that you have listed next to them. Puts him right along side the best in the game and he more than holds up.

Edited with the win percentage for games played that you have listed next to them. Puts him right along side the best in the game and he more than holds up.
- NJD Fan

I think he will be one of the better goaltenders in the game over the course of the next several years. I think the contract was a very good contract by any measure. But, I also think that you have to read numbers within their appropriate context. In any sport, when a player plays less games than some of his counterparts (which is not his fault), their numbers are likely to be positively influenced by the fact that they are not dealing with the same mental and physical grind as some of the other guys. That is why, with respect to goaltenders, you are rarely, if ever, going to see a guy get nominated for the Vezina that isn't carrying the load.

That's not to say that Schneider won't do it, or can't do it, because I think that he will. But, at this point he isn't nearly as decorated as some of the other guys listed, because he hasn't had the opportunity to be yet.

He just has to prove it, by being the clear number 1 guy, before he is mentioned as one of the Top 5 goalies in the game, and is that really a bad thing? Is there anything inflammatory about saying that?

I think he will be one of the better goaltenders in the game over the course of the next several years. I think the contract was a very good contract by any measure. But, I also think that you have to read numbers within their appropriate context. In any sport, when a player plays less games than some of his counterparts (which is not his fault), their numbers are likely to be positively influenced by the fact that they are not dealing with the same mental and physical grind as some of the other guys. That is why, with respect to goaltenders, you are rarely, if ever, going to see a guy get nominated for the Vezina that isn't carrying the load.

That's not to say that Schneider won't do it, or can't do it, because I think that he will. But, at this point he isn't nearly as decorated as some of the other guys listed, because he hasn't had the opportunity to be yet.

He just has to prove it, by being the clear number 1 guy, before he is mentioned as one of the Top 5 goalies in the game, and is that really a bad thing? Is there anything inflammatory about saying that?
- Pete V

Last year was the first time he played more than 30 games in a season. He should not have been given a deal for 6m per for 7 seasons just yet.
But I guess the Devils had to ponyup the cash because they traded a 9th overall pick for him. Still doesn't mean he earned it yet.
Maybe he will earn the contract but in my opinion he hasnt yet.

Edited with the win percentage for games played that you have listed next to them. Puts him right along side the best in the game and he more than holds up.
- NJD Fan

If you put all the backup goalies stats up for last years playoff teams they would be similiar to Schneiders

Last year was the first time he played more than 30 games in a season. He should not have been given a deal for 6m per for 7 seasons just yet.
But I guess the Devils had to ponyup the cash because they traded a 9th overall pick for him. Still doesn't mean he earned it yet.
Maybe he will earn the contract but in my opinion he hasnt yet.
- lileapers

I'd bet he would get the same offer or more on the free agent market next year. His body of work thus far speaks for itself. I guess it's a risk, but a small one compared to the greater chance that he's a top 10 goalie. Why risk losing him for nothing next year? We did that with Parise and look what happened. At the time, we could've pointed to his knee injury.. right was it the knee? as an excuse not to sign him long term. He was great as expected and earned his pay. Schneider gives us no reason to doubt he'd do the same.

If you put all the backup goalies stats up for last years playoff teams they would be similiar to Schneiders
- lileapers

Schneider has been playing exceptionally well his whole career. He's more than a backup that had a hot year or 2 playing 15-25 games.

Last year was the first time he played more than 30 games in a season. He should not have been given a deal for 6m per for 7 seasons just yet.
But I guess the Devils had to ponyup the cash because they traded a 9th overall pick for him. Still doesn't mean he earned it yet.
Maybe he will earn the contract but in my opinion he hasnt yet.
- lileapers

when the alternative is either having to move him or lose him for nothing next year because he'd be a ufa, the player has some leverage. This isn't a bad contract, Schneider is a positional goaltender with good reflexes, he's not going to suddenly decline in year 4 or 5 like goaltenders who rely a lot more on their reflexes. He's square to the shooter and covers his angles. He's someone I really wanted on the Isles but the Devils got him first. Great goaltender and he's going to show it over this contract. Good signing.

Schneider has been playing exceptionally well his whole career. He's more than a backup that had a hot year or 2 playing 15-25 games.
- MartysBetter88

we would have made the playoffs if marty played less games. great signing.

I'll give Lou an A on the offseason thus far.

Checklist:
-Extend Schneider - CHECK
-Add 1 or 2 top 6 F - CHECK
-Clear out log jam of D - CHECK (rather lose Sal than Fayne but w/e)

Still gotta clear out a couple forwards, if Lou can somehow turn a few of those mediocre guys into another real top 6 F than I'd say A+ offseason, but even just moving a couple of those guys for mid-round picks would be alright.
- MannySilvers

lol, wut?!

Even you suggest Lou needs to turn some of the excess fat into a "real top 6 F".

But Schneider was the big one for me. If Lou failed to re-sign Cory, then he needed to hit the bricks.

Moving A-Trainwreck was a good move. Everyone (including myself) wondered what the deal was, but it's apparent Lou was trying to trade an untradeable asset. Look what he signed for in Nashville.

Get a real top 6 FW that can touch 30G and NJ will be in business.

Time will tell in Cammalleri is what everyone has made him out to be.

lol, wut?!

Even you suggest Lou needs to turn some of the excess fat into a "real top 6 F".

But Schneider was the big one for me. If Lou failed to re-sign Cory, then he needed to hit the bricks.

Moving A-Trainwreck was a good move. Everyone (including myself) wondered what the deal was, but it's apparent Lou was trying to trade an untradeable asset. Look what he signed for in Nashville.

Get a real top 6 FW that can touch 30G and NJ will be in business.

Time will tell in Cammalleri is what everyone has made him out to be.
- FLdevilsFAN

Cammalleri is absolutely a top 6 forward which is what my post said, which doesn't necessarily mean he's a superstar or anything. On a great team he's a 2nd line forward, on NJ probably a first. Havlat at times has been top 6 and may stick there if he has chemistry with Elias and stays healthy, though his signing was so low risk it's not a disaster if he doesn't work out well.

“I don’t think you ever feel there are changes that have to be made,” Lamoriello said today. “We’re constantly looking at what we can do to get better whether it’s now, whether it’s during the summer, whether it’s in training camp, whether it’s the beginning of the season. So, I don’t think it’s ever a status quo process. I know I’ve never had that."



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“I don’t think you ever feel there are changes that have to be made,” Lamoriello said today. “We’re constantly looking at what we can do to get better whether it’s now, whether it’s during the summer, whether it’s in training camp, whether it’s the beginning of the season. So, I don’t think it’s ever a status quo process. I know I’ve never had that."



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- TheJerseyDevil1

He can go (frank) himself damn liar!

“I don’t think you ever feel there are changes that have to be made,” Lamoriello said today. “We’re constantly looking at what we can do to get better whether it’s now, whether it’s during the summer, whether it’s in training camp, whether it’s the beginning of the season. So, I don’t think it’s ever a status quo process. I know I’ve never had that."



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- TheJerseyDevil1

He was dropping status quo all season long

He was dropping status quo all season long
- shvingter88

Been longer than a season. What a (frank)ing a guy.

Been longer than a season. What a (frank)ing a guy.
- NickA

Rookie DEVIL-opment camp Sunday!

Hopefully Todd attends and can enlighten us on how the young'ns are looking.

I have to say looking at the other bloggers, I think we have the best (well us and Columbus)

Todd is pretty diplomatic, but candid when need be, and the charts and statistical analysis are awesome. Do you think he's shooting for a job with the Devils eventually? Is Todd after Conti's job? I bet he would be great at it.

Props for being good at what you do Todd. We appreciate it!

Rookie DEVIL-opment camp Sunday!

Hopefully Todd attends and can enlighten us on how the young'ns are looking.

I have to say looking at the other bloggers, I think we have the best (well us and Columbus)

Todd is pretty diplomatic, but candid when need be, and the charts and statistical analysis are awesome. Do you think he's shooting for a job with the Devils eventually? Is Todd after Conti's job? I bet he would be great at it.

Props for being good at what you do Todd. We appreciate it!


- TRDevil

isn't Todd a 20 yr old from Toronto?

isn't Todd a 20 yr old from Toronto?
- FLdevilsFAN

Yeah

isn't Todd a 20 yr old from Toronto?
- FLdevilsFAN

isn't Todd a 20 yr old from Toronto?
- FLdevilsFAN

That is great! Most of the 20 year old kids i know can't see past a video game. I had no idea he was a young'n himself. Good deal, what a great kid. I guess he wont be at the development camp though lol.

"The numbers suggest the Devils have the best goaltender in hockey signed"

The numbers also suggest that, until this year, Cory Schneider has never played more than 35 games in any single season, and still hasn't played north of 50. Whereas many of the top goaltenders in the league have really carried the load, playing over 60 (and sometimes over 70 games) over the past several years.

Cory Schneider is a very good goaltender, and that is a smart contract by any measure, IMO, but even to suggest, based on numbers or otherwise, that he is the best goaltender is without merit. Let him play outside of a committee for once in his career, before even mentioning him in that category.
- Pete V

I think playing regularly should only help him stay sharp. He didn't like playing as part of a committee. Especially last year. He had peaks and valleys last year and still finished .921, 1.87. My perspective would be he'd only get better with more consistent time.