I was just there this past week as my family lives there. So I am actually a Tampa fan.

The actual city is horrible, but St. Pete's (Treasure Island beach) and Disney world close by are good.

- Aetherial

Tampa has Toronto beaten in the weather category, but that's it.

In what world is Stralman better than Dion? That's ridiculous. Stralman would be crushed if he had to have Dion's role.
- RogerRoeper

dion sucks. he is a turnover machine, and a liability. id rather have eric (frank)ing brewer

Not really stamkos will resign here July 2015! If the leafs want him they will need to trade for him and good luck.
- todd1a

This blog should have been posted a year from now if Stamkos is still unsigned. Then we could get a real debate going lol

Not really stamkos will resign here July 2015! If the leafs want him they will need to trade for him and good luck.
- todd1a

It is up to Stamkos.

If he wants to come to Toronto (and we really can't assume this), he will go to UFA rather than make the team he is going to dismantle its future in a blockbuster trade.

Not really stamkos will resign here July 2015! If the leafs want him they will need to trade for him and good luck.
- todd1a

Haha you never know. He has said it would be a dream come true playing for the Leafs and now him favouriting the tweet. It's something to think about.

Haha you never know. He has said it would be a dream come true playing for the Leafs and now him favouriting the tweet. It's something to think about.
- JVR_42_PK81

I just don't see it.

Tampa has Toronto beaten in the weather category, but that's it.
- RogerRoeper

Depends.

I can barely deal with anything greater than 25 C/77 F, so I'll take Toronto

dion sucks. he is a turnover machine, and a liability.
- RileyB77

Why are his numbers so good over the past decade then?

Stralman isn't close to Dion.

THe "Turnover Machine" is stupid. Dude played well defensively last season. And he faces the toughest minutes in the entire NHL.

Not me. The Lightning survived before him and can survive without him. He is not this team but part of it (albeit a big part).

As for Toronto, they have a good (not great) prospect pool, but you're kidding yourself if you think for one second it's better then TBay's.
- Artyukhin76

I never said anything about that. I know yours is better but I also dont think that its far and away better. Leafs prospects and players are always unvalued because were the leafs.

dion sucks. he is a turnover machine, and a liability. id rather have eric (frank)ing brewer
- RileyB77

You've given up, lost the plot, so to speak.

Depends.

I can barely deal with anything greater than 25 C/77 F, so I'll take Toronto
- lumlums

Tampa isn't in the same universe as Toronto as a city.

Why are his numbers so good over the past decade then?

Stralman isn't close to Dion.

THe "Turnover Machine" is stupid. Dude played well defensively last season. And he faces the toughest minutes in the entire NHL.
- RogerRoeper

no he didnt, the only thing hes consistent at is turning the (frank)ing puck over

Not me. The Lightning survived before him and can survive without him. He is not this team but part of it (albeit a big part).

As for Toronto, they have a good (not great) prospect pool, but you're kidding yourself if you think for one second it's better then TBay's.
- Artyukhin76

... and that is not what i said when I started the "debate" that apparently could not be made.

no he didnt, the only thing hes consistent at is turning the (frank)ing puck over
- RileyB77

He's a top 20 NHL D-Man. Legit #1.

I was just there this past week as my family lives there. So I am actually a Tampa fan.

The actual city is horrible, but St. Pete's (Treasure Island beach) and Disney world close by are good.

- Aetherial

Downtown is not great, but Hyde Park, Clearwater and Tarpon Springs are nice too.

Depends.

I can barely deal with anything greater than 25 C/77 F, so I'll take Toronto
- lumlums

They sell lots in Tampa.

Players in markets like Tampa face no pressure, no criticism. Rick Nash somehow was a "Franchise Player" for 10 years in Columbus and they never won a single playoff game with him.

If you can't make fun of the guys skill you have to make fun of something else.
- JVR_42_PK81

I'm an bumhole, that's what I do!

He's a top 20 NHL D-Man. Legit #1.
- RogerRoeper

id say his time is up. he is significantly worse than he use to be

He's a top 20 NHL D-Man. Legit #1.
- RogerRoeper

id say his time is up. he is significantly worse than he use to be

id say his time is up. he is significantly worse than he use to be
- RileyB77

He's only 29. Playing the best defense of his career.

You've given up, lost the plot, so to speak.
- Aetherial

there was no plot. your debate was (frank)ed. Theres no way in hell Toronto has ANYTHING going better for them than the TBL organization , NONE

He's only 29. Playing the best defense of his career.
- RogerRoeper

that is a joke. he's awful playing for you

dion sucks. he is a turnover machine, and a liability. id rather have eric (frank)ing brewer
- RileyB77

Unless his name is literal and he provides beer, this is a crazy statement.

He played on a team with flawed systems last year, but still has better GA/60 than guys like Keith, Karlsson, Weber, Subban. He's far from perfect, but Brewer would get absolutely murdered if put in the same situations as Dion.

Downtown is not great, but Hyde Park, Clearwater and Tarpon Springs are nice too.
- Artyukhin76

They have a good zoo that is the perfect size for a day trip and I love Busch Gardens in March break where we didn't even have to wait for 2 hours for each ride (unlike Canada's Wonderland, which is a sh1t hole).