Bobby Ryan & his agent know if they hit the open market in 2015, He can get at least $7 Mill per year on a long term contract (7 years)..

Bobby Ryan has said publicly that when a team trades for you/investes in you it's nice if you can show appreciation back to said team buy signing long term with them.

I think Ottawa offers him $7.5 million per year over 8 seasons ( $60 million )
They also sell him on being the face of this franchise with an A on his jersey along with a promise to start spending on talent in the near future when this teams ready to seriously contend in the east.. Witch could be 2 years from now if management plays their cards right. He resignes.

Eugene Melnyk has to pay up anyways.. We can't have a roster under the cap floor.. If bobby doesn't resign then we'll be way under. He'll be dealt. The Sens get assets back & we land a big fish in free agency.

I think Ottawa offers him $7.5 million per year over 8 seasons ( $60 million )
- Erik6Karlsson5

That is higher than I care to spend. It's too much. That money is for a franchise - elite forward or defenseman.

8 years $ 6.75 is more than fair

take a look at the leader
http://capgeek.com/leaders/?type=CAP_HIT

That is higher than I care to spend. It's too much. That money is for a franchise - elite forward or defenseman.

8 years $ 6.75 is more than fair

take a look at the leader
http://capgeek.com/leaders/?type=CAP_HIT
- AlfieisKing

It's money for an elite forward now - it won't be in 3 years. especially with hockey growing the way it is in California.

If Ottawa can't resign Ryan to a new deal then they'll have to trade him ASAP. Can't lose another player for nothing... Also, what if the cap floor is $56M next year? They'll have to spend somewhere! Right?

If Ottawa can't resign Ryan to a new deal then they'll have to trade him ASAP. Can't lose another player for nothing... Also, what if the cap floor is $56M next year? They'll have to spend somewhere! Right?
- riceroni

Don't expect much of a change in the cap. Bettman says 5% increase but that is probably optimistic. 1/2 of the new Canadian tv revenue increase is already calculated into this year. Everything is all in except for the remaining $50m to be added from the new Canadian TV deal. This money works out to about $1.65m being added to the cap next year ($70.65). The number of outdoor stadium games has been decreased. There simply are no easy new revenue streams on the horizon. Watch for teams to place some priority on the creation of new revenues from ancillary activities that they define as non hockey related.

That is higher than I care to spend. It's too much. That money is for a franchise - elite forward or defenseman.

8 years $ 6.75 is more than fair

take a look at the leader
http://capgeek.com/leaders/?type=CAP_HIT
- AlfieisKing

We at least have to offer him 7.5 long term I think... Or it's bye bye.

By trading Spezza and getting Legwand, the senators saved at least 4M$. I am sure the plan is to use that money to offer a good contract to Ryan. Murray/senators organization cannot afford to let him go. He will get the big bucks probably north to 7M-8M$... that's my guess.

I think you are correct.
- spatso

I don't think so, but don't forget that both players are in different positions in different teams at the moment. Ryan was injured last season so you can't use that to sample what he is worth. Money, salary and career are more strikes of luck and good timing.

ya its wishful thinking but who knows.

i think $ 54M (old jersey #)... over 8 years is fair - 6.75 per
- AlfieisKing

Do you think if he has another 48 point season he (or his agent) can still command near 7 mil per season?

That is higher than I care to spend. It's too much. That money is for a franchise - elite forward or defenseman.

8 years $ 6.75 is more than fair

take a look at the leader
http://capgeek.com/leaders/?type=CAP_HIT
- AlfieisKing

7.5-8mil per im totally fine with...we have tons of cap space and the contract wont kill the team....if Ryan is healthy, he will easily put up the goals and points to justify that cap hit

we have to eventually start paying good hockey players money they will get at literally every other team or the sens are going to be a glorified AHL team outside of like 4 players...

7.5-8mil per im totally fine with...we have tons of cap space and the contract wont kill the team....if Ryan is healthy, he will easily put up the goals and points to justify that cap hit

we have to eventually start paying good hockey players money they will get at literally every other team or the sens are going to be a glorified AHL team outside of like 4 players...
- TheMike12

I like Bobby Ryan but he's not worth $8M and the Sens should not pay him that much. And, also while I believe Kane and Towes are both worth the $10.5M they got, in a cap world it's a lot. The way GM's are spending money I can guarantee that we have another lockout after this CBA is up.

I like Bobby Ryan but he's not worth $8M and the Sens should not pay him that much. And, also while I believe Kane and Towes are both worth the $10.5M they got, in a cap world it's a lot. The way GM's are spending money I can guarantee that we have another lockout after this CBA is up.
- riceroni

I think another lockout was all but guaranteed before the latest CBA was even signed. It's an NHL tradition.

I like Bobby Ryan but he's not worth $8M and the Sens should not pay him that much. And, also while I believe Kane and Towes are both worth the $10.5M they got, in a cap world it's a lot. The way GM's are spending money I can guarantee that we have another lockout after this CBA is up.
- riceroni

id rather pay bobby ryan 8mil per then a couple of crap players 4mil each...cuz you know thats basically what will happen if they cant sign ryan..

It's funny reading the posts of fans of other teams ripping the Flyers for spending to the cap every year, and how they are in cap trouble, needing to dump salary just to fit under the cap for the start of the season. As a general rule, you might want to do a little research on stuff before you post your "expert" opinions. Feel free to come to the Flyers threads and ask how Philly can fit under the cap without doing anything more than paper transactions. Tight to the cap yes, but just fine.

As for Bobby Ryan, it's anyone's guess as to how the situation will play out. I can see Ottawa offering him decent money for long-term, maybe see if he wants to be the captain, continue to sell him on the direction of the team, the city, etc.

Bobby has made it no secret he has interest in playing for the Flyers and with Giroux. As has been said, Bobby has earned the right to UFA status next summer. Another team could swoop in and offer crazy $ he can't refuse. If Sens fans think Snider and Hextall won't do whatever is necessary salary-cap wise to make room for a max Bobby Ryan contract next summer, you're the delusional ones.

It's funny reading the posts of fans of other teams ripping the Flyers for spending to the cap every year, and how they are in cap trouble, needing to dump salary just to fit under the cap for the start of the season. As a general rule, you might want to do a little research on stuff before you post your "expert" opinions. Feel free to come to the Flyers threads and ask how Philly can fit under the cap without doing anything more than paper transactions. Tight to the cap yes, but just fine.

As for Bobby Ryan, it's anyone's guess as to how the situation will play out. I can see Ottawa offering him decent money for long-term, maybe see if he wants to be the captain, continue to sell him on the direction of the team, the city, etc.

Bobby has made it no secret he has interest in playing for the Flyers and with Giroux. As has been said, Bobby has earned the right to UFA status next summer. Another team could swoop in and offer crazy $ he can't refuse. If Sens fans think Snider and Hextall won't do whatever is necessary salary-cap wise to make room for a max Bobby Ryan contract next summer, you're the delusional ones.
- Rocktane

If he makes it to free agency you're going to have to make him your highest paid player, cause you know someone else is gonna throw a ton of cash at him. Just look at the contracts from this off season, its insane what these guys are getting who have half the talent of Ryan.

id rather pay bobby ryan 8mil per then a couple of crap players 4mil each...cuz you know thats basically what will happen if they cant sign ryan..
- TheMike12

Ryan is coming off a year where he scored 23 goals (48 points) in 70 games. The year before (lockout season) he scored 11 goals 30 points in 48 games (that's 19 goals, and 51 points over a full season)

Yes Ryan put together 4 consecutive seasons of 30+ goals but the fact is he's lost the leverage to come close to 8M. Even if he reaches 30 goals this year the max he'll get on the open market is 7.5 (teams that will give more will not be destinations of choice for him). Money won't be the issue. If he wants to stay in Ottawa (which it looks like he does) then he should sign here. around 7per is more than fair for both sides.

I've heard this argument that the cap is going up - that's not a fact at all. Same speculation as usual

It's funny reading the posts of fans of other teams ripping the Flyers for spending to the cap every year, and how they are in cap trouble, needing to dump salary just to fit under the cap for the start of the season. As a general rule, you might want to do a little research on stuff before you post your "expert" opinions. Feel free to come to the Flyers threads and ask how Philly can fit under the cap without doing anything more than paper transactions. Tight to the cap yes, but just fine.

As for Bobby Ryan, it's anyone's guess as to how the situation will play out. I can see Ottawa offering him decent money for long-term, maybe see if he wants to be the captain, continue to sell him on the direction of the team, the city, etc.

Bobby has made it no secret he has interest in playing for the Flyers and with Giroux. As has been said, Bobby has earned the right to UFA status next summer. Another team could swoop in and offer crazy $ he can't refuse. If Sens fans think Snider and Hextall won't do whatever is necessary salary-cap wise to make room for a max Bobby Ryan contract next summer, you're the delusional ones.
- Rocktane

Speculation at its finest,

Bobby Ryan in a contract year fully rested

BEAST

Bobby Ryan in a contract year fully rested

BEAST
- tuna99

Iam thinking they will announce his and other signings ,when they announce the captain .They will use this as a tool to boost ticket sales

Bobby Ryan in a contract year fully rested

BEAST
- tuna99

I agree he should have a better year but $7.5 on a 8 year term is the max I would go.

People need to look at the players that have signed $ above this and 2,3 years in where are their teams?

Iam thinking they will announce his and other signings ,when they announce the captain .They will use this as a tool to boost ticket sales

- top shelf 15

I think Ryan stating publicly he want to come back was brilliant on his part - it puts huge pressure on managment to sing him. He says he wants to stay in a market that is feeling shunned by it's biggest stars and the fans are all screaming to get it done.

He has Ottawa up against a wall here - smart move by him, he's in the drivers seat and can pretty much name his price within reason. he knows Montreal, Toronto, Detroit would pay out the nose in FA to get him, almost all 30 NHL teams will

I agree he should have a better year but $7.5 on a 8 year term is the max I would go.

People need to look at the players that have signed $ above this and 2,3 years in where are their teams?
- AlfieisKing

Yep i think he is in and around that range .

I think Ryan stating publicly he want to come back was brilliant on his part - it puts huge pressure on managment to sing him. He says he wants to stay in a market that is feeling shunned by it's biggest stars and the fans are all screaming to get it done.

He has Ottawa up against a wall here - smart move by him, he's in the drivers seat and can pretty much name his price within reason. he knows Montreal, Toronto, Detroit would pay out the nose in FA to get him, almost all 30 NHL teams will
- tuna99

Yep for sure,EM and his cheap ways kinda put us here ,iam sure he will resign ,and EM can cry some more

Speculation at its finest,

- top shelf 15

All that was written and you chose that to comment on? Top notch, top shelf

All that was written and you chose that to comment on? Top notch, top shelf
- Rocktane

This speculation that Ryan wants to play in Philly because he lived there ,is just that .Philly doenst offer much more than Ottawa does.Our teams arent that far apart ,in fact the whole of the east isnt far apart .Why would Philly try and outbid us on a winger ??When clearly they have much more important holes to fill ,like their defense??They wont be in the running for Ryan period