Does anyone know what Tanev wants, money or term, it seems strange 2 single yr deals after his ELC?
- A_SteamingLombardi

I am guessing Benning said let me see you for a year and we will sit down and do a fair contract or he said something like Boston ( or someone else) will want you on cheap deal in a trade and then you can negotiate with them long term

I would take the proven cup winner over a maybe any day
- VANTEL

So you are saying you'd take Willie Mitchell over Ekblad?

So you are saying you'd take Willie Mitchell over Ekblad?
- PetrolSexual

Did I say that or were we talking about Kassian and LUcic?

Did I say that or were we talking about Kassian and LUcic?
- VANTEL

Just tearing the limitations of your statement.

I don't see the difference between LUcic and Kane? Why is everyone in love with Kane but hate a Kane like player that is better.
- VANTEL

Lucic isn't a better hockey player than Kane. Kane could skate circles around that oaf.

Lucic isn't a better hockey player than Kane. Kane could skate circles around that oaf.
- DrChristianTroy

Goals hits intimidation ,I ll take Lucic

Lucic isn't a better hockey player than Kane. Kane could skate circles around that oaf.
- DrChristianTroy

If either of them played for the Canucks, they would be our best winger.

Lucic isn't a better hockey player than Kane. Kane could skate circles around that oaf.
- DrChristianTroy

At this point in time (without looking at any sort of predictions or historical elements or otherwise), I would take Lucic over Kane. However, if we were factoring age (not really that big of a factor, given they are both in their early/mid twenties), upside, and level of further potential, I would definitely consider Kane over the former (IF he can get his sh*t together as concerns his professionalism and attitude)

Kane is obviously the better skater and has a bit more finesse but nonetheless plays with the same sort of grit and toughness as Lucic. He's also a few years younger and probably, at this point, has much more motivation to prove his critics wrong (or at least you would like to think he does )

But Lucic is a proven commodity and you know what you are going to get with him pretty much game in and game out. Moreover, he has proven he can raise the level of his play in this play-offs and is a clutch player

Soooooo - Semiahmoo golf course is a must if you haven't been!! Wow what a great day. Kinda like the upcoming season for Kassian, Horvat and the rest of the boys.

Goals hits intimidation ,I ll take Lucic
- VANTEL

To each their own I guess. By the time Kane hits Lucic's current age he'll have 4 30g seasons and Lucic will still have 1. Kane is younger than Kassian FFS and everyone seems to want to give Kassian 'til his late 20's before they judge his abilities... unreal.

I'll take Kassian's potential & Tanev's current skillset over Lucic + Boychuck any day.

To each their own I guess. By the time Kane hits Lucic's current age he'll have 4 30g seasons and Lucic will still have 1. Kane is younger than Kassian FFS and everyone seems to want to give Kassian 'til his late 20's before they judge his abilities... unreal.

I'll take Kassian's potential & Tanev's current skillset over Lucic + Boychuck any day.
- DrChristianTroy

Doesn't Kane have one also? There is no guarantee he is going to get 3 x 30 seasons in the next 4 years

Doesn't Kane have one also? There is no guarantee he is going to get 3 x 30 seasons in the next 4 years
- VANTEL

In the right situation, 30g is Kane's basement. It's Lucic's ceiling.

In the right situation, 30g is Kane's basement. It's Lucic's ceiling.
- DrChristianTroy

What team would that be with? Chi is already over the cap

What team would that be with? Chi is already over the cap
- VANTEL

The Canucks - North/South line and some PP time.

To each their own I guess. By the time Kane hits Lucic's current age he'll have 4 30g seasons and Lucic will still have 1. Kane is younger than Kassian FFS and everyone seems to want to give Kassian 'til his late 20's before they judge his abilities... unreal.

I'll take Kassian's potential & Tanev's current skillset over Lucic + Boychuck any day.
- DrChristianTroy

I think the fact that the Bruins are such a quality team with excellent depth, Lucic doesn't get the majority of PP minutes than would be the case on a team like Winnipeg (imagine if Lucic got the same quality ice-time as Kane and PP minutes?).

I think you are significantly undervaluing Lucic, DCT. If Lucic was on any other team, he would be getting first line PP minutes. And with that, I am sure that he would be looking at 35+ goal seasons for a lot of years (the guy just turned 26!). But because the B's have such dispersed production (Krejci, Bergeron, Erikson, Iginla Marchand (signed with Avs but last season he was getting some good minutes, including PP time), there is no clear cut Number 1 guy as concerns the offensive side of things.

In any event, my .02$

I think the fact that the Bruins are such a quality team with excellent depth, Lucic doesn't get the majority of PP minutes than would be the case on a team like Winnipeg (imagine if Lucic got the same quality ice-time as Kane and PP minutes?).

I think you are significantly undervaluing Lucic, DCT. If Lucic was on any other team, he would be getting first line PP minutes. And with that, I am sure that he would be looking at 35+ goal seasons for a lot of years (the guy just turned 26!)
- Zogg

Huh? Kane gets 2nd unit PP time on the Jets while Lucic is getting top unit PP mins with the Bruins.

Huh? Kane gets 2nd unit PP time on the Jets.
- DrChristianTroy

He also gets benched for not playing well. I like Kane but I think you are overvaluing him. He would be a 20 goal scorer on Canucks we don't have the supporting cast

He also gets benched for not playing well. I likemKane but I think you are overvaluing him. he would be a 20 goal scorer on Canucks we don't have the supporting cast
- VANTEL

and Winnipeg DOES? He scored 17g in 48 games the year after his 30 as a 20/yr old and 19 in 63 games the year after. Over a full schedule that translates into a 29g & 25g pace and those numbers came with benchings, playing with linemate leftovers, secondary PP mins... Come on, you can't be serious.

and Winnipeg DOES? He scored 17g in 48 games the year after his 30 as a 20/yr old and 19 in 63 games the year after. Over a full schedule that translates into a 29g & 25g pace and those numbers came with benchings, playing with linemate leftovers, secondary PP mins... Come on, you can't be serious.
- DrChristianTroy

Winnipeg beat us last year and does have some talent on offence.

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That is nice.

I heard some reggae Floyd covers at the old a&b just before they closed, can't remember the name of the band and they wouldn't sell the store copy at the time

Tried downloading it, but was wrong band

Like that summertime pace.
- hillbillydeluxe

Most likely the Easy Star All Stars. Check out "Dub Side of the Moon".

Huh? Kane gets 2nd unit PP time on the Jets.
- DrChristianTroy

Hmm, not quite sure where you're getting this information

Kane - Total Average Ice Time Per game = 20:00 + minutes ; Power Play - 3:20
Lucic - Total Average Ice Time Per Game - 16:55 ; Power Play - 2.40

Those are some significant differences. Again, I'd like to see what Lucic would be able to do if he got the same icetime/PP opportunities as Kane

Is there something I'm missing here? (wouldn't be the first nor last time )

Edit: ok, I think I just had a brain tumour I've switched the PP time between the two players ugggg.. @#$# sakes. But the TOI is correct

Winnipeg beat us last year and does have some talent on offence.
- VANTEL

Who didn't?

... and just because they have a couple talented fwds doesn't mean Kane was being used to his highest potential.

You know it's summer when we're having Lucic-Kane debates.



Also:



Dane Fox doe.

Who didn't?

... and just because they have a couple talented fwds doesn't mean Kane was being used to his highest potential.
- DrChristianTroy

Well if he played on our second line which has been non existent for the last 4 years ! I couldn't see him doing any better with the human black hole we had at centre

Hmm, not quite sure where you're getting the information

Kane - Total Average Ice Time Per game = 20 minutes : Power Play - 3:20
Lucic - Total Average Ice Time Per Game - 16:55 : Power Play - 2.40

Those are some significant differences. Again, I'd like to see what Lucic would be able to do if he got the same icetime/PP opportunities as Kane

Is there something I'm missing?

P.S Lucic is NOT getting anywhere near the same PP minutes as Kane so, again, not sure what source you are using (not trying to be a d*ckhead, by the way, I'm just wonderin', is all)
- Zogg

Other than the correct #'s?

Evander Kane: 2:13 PP TOI/g (5th highest avg for Jets fwds)
Milan Lucic: 2:20 PP TOI/g (3rd highest avg for Bruins fwds)