I think the key thing with Lucic is, idiotic public comments aside and a bit of an archaic ole-time hockey philosophy (i.e. that whole shaking hands/kill you fiasco), he is nonetheless a quintessential team player (at least according to all the various sources).

And, as just stated above, the contract/terms for both players are virtually similar. And with Kane, as of this moment of time, we're primarily basing things on potential (and I think we all know how these things sometimes pan out). With Lucic, he has proven over a good sample size that he can be a very valuable and consistent offensive asset - not to mention all the other intangibles he brings.

Lastly,
- Zogg

You bring up some good points, but all those aside, I still think Kane would be a better option. Now, I'm not arguing for either player as really as I'd like to see how the kids develop in the system with an actual game plan. And while 750,000 isn't massive, it could be a make or break with a deadline depth acquisition. Plus he's signed for an additional 2 years over Lucic.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ancouver-after-bar-fight/
- Nucker101

yet he comes back here every summer. he must really hate it here.

That's what Buffalo thought as well.

Erhoff and Letang should be interesting together!
- Canuckleafer

Ehrhoff should be paired with Määttä. Martin and Letang play really well together.

We'll be fine @ D.

Ehrhoff should be paired with Määttä. Martin and Letang play really well together.

We'll be fine @ D.
- Orpik44

Till the playoffs as usual. You almost lost to the BJ's

I'd take Kane over Lucic. Both appear to have potential attitude issues but Kane is younger, cheaper with a greater offensive upside.

My concern is what would be required to acquire him. I don't like the idea of mortgaging the future for one player.
- Canuckleafer

Yikes, sounds like we are getting into advanced mathematics here lol. As mentioned, quite interesting that we are now getting into such advanced metrics micro-analysis (all I knew growing up in terms of higher end strategy was "shoot dat puck, @#$%@#$ tabernacle!)

"Small Little Habs" sounds like a Saturday morning kiddy show about small red wood nymphs who are continually attacked by the much larger sized neighbouring colony "Huge-Ass-Bruins". Luckily, the maiden of one of the Small Little Habs villages (CK Pubbah) was able to kill the fugly Lucic ogre after luring him with hemp lingerie and poisoned pickled-hog-rinds, and thus restore the Small Little Habs life of frivolity, magic, pixies, farting unicorns, and rainbows and marijuana farms :ahh:

Ok, umm, where were we? lol. I think maybe you might be looking ahead more than necessary - it's going to be 7 years until the age difference will mean anything, at which point I don't even know if he'll still be with the B's as he will no doubt be a FA at some point within that period. Seven years in hockey-time is the equivalent of 3 ice-ages (or one of Kesler's photo sessions )

I do think you and DCT have a point when it comes to line-mates. Lucic of course has better quality players to play with. But that is actually something that comes with my initial points. Lucic is NOT the key offensive cog to Bruin's succes; but he is one of them (see what I did there?). That is Bruins what makes up Bruins hockey, 3 lines and even a 4th line that can provide you with offense. I think it makes it that much more remarkable Lucic has been scoring 25-30 goals per season when you divide ice-time/quality ice-time/PP time etc between so many good players (note, he only had 12 power play points last year!)

Anyway, quite an interesting discussion and some great information provided

Ehrhoff should be paired with Määttä. Martin and Letang play really well together.

We'll be fine @ D.
- Orpik44

You gonna keep going with that user name?

I don't need numbers and stats . I have eyes. When LUcic is on the ice players are avoiding him and looking over their shoulder. I don't see that with Kane
- VANTEL

Except the Habs, who were in his face until he lost his planet of the apes poop and went to the penalty box... I don't think he plays "the right way" according to lindenbenning.

Except the Habs, who were in his face until he lost his planet of the apes poop and went to the penalty box... I don't think he plays "the right way" according to lindenbenning.
- 1970vintage

Does Kane play the right way?

Does Kane play the right way?
- VANTEL

Never said that, only I think Lucic is a dbag, but Benning would know better. I disagree with whoever it was that said Lucic has an "old time hockey" mentality. I don't think he respects where the game came from. I see him as more of a hockey gangster.

Never said that, only I think Lucic is a dbag, but Benning would know better. I disagree with whoever it was that said Lucic has an "old time hockey" mentality. I don't think he respects where the game came from. I see him as more of a hockey gangster.
- 1970vintage

But Hockey Toughguys have won 3 of 4 of the last cups

But Hockey Toughguys have won 3 of 4 of the last cups
- VANTEL

Huh?

Plus, as far as Lucic being "clutch", he's had one stellar playoff (point wise) when the B's lost to Chicgo. Other than that, meh.

Huh?

Plus, as far as Lucic being "clutch", he's had one stellar playoff (point wise) when the B's lost to Chicgo. Other than that, meh.
- 1970vintage

Kane's playoffs stats?

Never said that, only I think Lucic is a dbag, but Benning would know better. I disagree with whoever it was that said Lucic has an "old time hockey" mentality. I don't think he respects where the game came from. I see him as more of a hockey gangster.
- 1970vintage

I think there seems to be a bit of a misconception with respect to 'ole-time'hockey'. A lot of people think there was this magical wonderful hockey code that players adhered to and which was romanticized as the 'good ole days'. Well, based on reading quite a bit of material on 50's and 60's, 70's hockey, it seems there was just as little respect (if not more - in terms of violent incidents) for fellow players as there is today.

I do agree with your comments, as Lucic does have that hockey gangster make-up. But if you look back on hockey played in the 50's 60's and 70's there was that same sort of element/philosophy as is the case today with respect to 'tough-hockey" - "go out there and knock his @#%@#$#@ teeth out!". I just don't think it's really fair to single out Lucic, as if he is the one that introduced this to hockey.

And again, please note I am not a huge fan of Lucic, but I would LOVE to have him on my team (although I seem to be contradicting myself - I suppose I am a bit of fan )

I'm just curious so bear with me, but if we could get Lucic for a reasonable offer, would you not want him on the Canucks?

P.S. full disclaimer - there are a few players out there which I really have no logical reason for disliking yet there it is, I woudn't want any of these players on my team. Yes, man is a complex @#$er

Kane's playoffs stats?
- VANTEL

Come on. You're reaching now. Have them switch teams(and birthdates) since they've been drafted and we'd be the saying about Lucic and Kane's would look pretty sexy playing with Krejci

Come on. You're reaching now. Have them switch teams(and birthdates) since they've been drafted and we'd be the saying about Lucic and Kane's would look pretty sexy playing with Krejci
- Nucker101

You don't think that LUcic s aggressive play in regular season has contributed to the Bruins making the playoffs year after year while Kane has not had the same level of success.

One plays on the top line of one of the best teams of the league while the other plays on second line on one of the worst teams..


Sorry I need clarification .

I can hardly read this drivel/sh!t LOL....WTF are we talkn about?

But Hockey Toughguys have won 3 of 4 of the last cups
- VANTEL

By them self?

But Hockey Toughguys have won 3 of 4 of the last cups
- VANTEL

And 4 of 4 have been won by elite possession teams.

You don't think that LUcic s aggressive play in regular season has contributed to the Bruins making the playoffs year after year while Kane has not had the same level of success.

One plays on the top line of one of the best teams of the league while the other plays on second line on one of the worst teams..


Sorry I need clarification .
- VANTEL

Outside of LW(with Ladd and Kane), the Jets lack quality depth throughout their roster. Basically one of Ladd or Kane had to play 2nd line LW with mediocre linemates. The Jets coaches preferred going with Ladd on line one and so Kane has to make chicken soup out if chicken sh*t.


Lucic and Marchand have been the Bruins top 2 LW's these past few years, but when you have Bergeron/Krejci as your 1-2 punch plus guys like Horton/Iggy as RW's or Seguin used as a RW before he was moved they basically have a 1A/1B line.

I can hardly read this drivel/sh!t LOL....WTF are we talkn about?
- LeftCoaster

How sexy you are.

How sexy you are.
- Nucker101

What about making a play for someone like Tyler Myers?

What about making a play for someone like Tyler Myers?
- Yeti1181

it's been rumored already. Interesting thought.

You gotta think he'd be an interesting reclamation project for someone who is known for molding good young players.

What about making a play for someone like Tyler Myers?
- Yeti1181

Will if you sample his current play (2013/2014) & (world Championships)

I say HELL NO.

Will if you sample his current play (2013/2014) & (world Championships)

I say HELL NO.
- classic321

Well you need to take into account he plays on buffalo and they are poop.

it's been rumored already. Interesting thought.

You gotta think he'd be an interesting reclamation project for someone who is known for molding good young players.
- vancity787

Barry trotz has had some good success with d men.