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KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 16 @ 8:09 PM ET
i stand corrected

kind of a high angle anti-flyers camera shot though, imo

- Crimsoninja


conspiracy. we solve this. we solve the kennedy assassination, Johnsson.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 16 @ 8:49 PM ET
I think part of this is on VLC. He needs to make the mental decision to adjust the way he plays. I guy with as much pure hockey talent as he has should be able to adjust his mindset to fit more with what Berube is trying to do. Frankly, that is the best way for him to extend his career.

He has to decide to become a better defensive player. He may not have the speed, but I don't buy that he doesn't have the hockey smarts to figure it out.

I have never understood how the best players in any sport are not also the best players at every aspect of the sport, especially a sport like hockey.

I always think of Michael Jordan, which in some ways is an apt comparison considering the hype when VLC was drafted. Not only was Jordan the best offensive player in the game, but his skill set and PRIDE was such that he also made himself in to the best DEFENSIVE player in the game as well.

There are plenty of players in this league who adjusted their games as they got older, VLC needs to be one of those players. That is the bottom line.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 16 @ 8:50 PM ET
ob sent everyone to the AHL thread for seasoning
- Crimsoninja


More going on with our AHL roster anyway
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 16 @ 8:52 PM ET
I think part of this is on VLC. He needs to make the mental decision to adjust the way he plays. I guy with as much pure hockey talent as he has should be able to adjust his mindset to fit more with what Berube is trying to do. Frankly, that is the best way for him to extend his career.

He has to decide to become a better defensive player. He may not have the speed, but I don't buy that he doesn't have the hockey smarts to figure it out.

I have never understood how the best players in any sport are not also the best players at every aspect of the sport, especially a sport like hockey.

I always think of Michael Jordan, which in some ways is an apt comparison considering the hype when VLC was drafted. Not only was Jordan the best offensive player in the game, but his skill set and PRIDE was such that he also made himself in to the best DEFENSIVE player in the game as well.

There are plenty of players in this league who adjusted their games as they got older, VLC needs to be one of those players. That is the bottom line.

- MBFlyerfan


I can totally understand not being the best in all aspects, I can even understand being below average in an aspect or two, depending on the sport. My problem is when a top talent isnt even adequate in one or more aspects of the game.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
More going on with our AHL roster anyway
- PhillySportsGuy


Crims is on the ECHL roster but won't be the only one
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
Crims is on the ECHL roster but won't be the only one
- ob18


I'll go to the KHL first.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
I'll go to the KHL first.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Pack those bags

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
I can totally understand not being the best in all aspects, I can even understand being below average in an aspect or two, depending on the sport. My problem is when a top talent isnt even adequate in one or more aspects of the game.
- Doc_Sarcasm



IN my opinion then, you aren't a top talent.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
IN my opinion then, you aren't a top talent.
- MBFlyerfan



well.. yeah, I'm obviously not a top talent because first Ob threatened me with the ECHL and then I had to sign in the KHL for 3 rubles and a half eaten vatrushka.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:01 PM ET
Vinny will score 50 goals next year.

Haters gonna hate
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:03 PM ET
Vinny will score 50 goals next year.

Haters gonna hate

- Winning

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
I think part of this is on VLC. He needs to make the mental decision to adjust the way he plays. I guy with as much pure hockey talent as he has should be able to adjust his mindset to fit more with what Berube is trying to do. Frankly, that is the best way for him to extend his career.

He has to decide to become a better defensive player. He may not have the speed, but I don't buy that he doesn't have the hockey smarts to figure it out.

I have never understood how the best players in any sport are not also the best players at every aspect of the sport, especially a sport like hockey.

I always think of Michael Jordan, which in some ways is an apt comparison considering the hype when VLC was drafted. Not only was Jordan the best offensive player in the game, but his skill set and PRIDE was such that he also made himself in to the best DEFENSIVE player in the game as well.

There are plenty of players in this league who adjusted their games as they got older, VLC needs to be one of those players. That is the bottom line.

- MBFlyerfan

Even Claude Giroux has been average defensively at times. Especially at key dying moments of a third period when we're trying to hang on to a one goal lead. I don't think there is anything wrong with giving such faceoff and defensive zone responsibilities to Sean Couturier from here on out.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:10 PM ET
Vinny will score 50 goals next year.

Haters gonna hate

- Winning

I believe he could score 30 if he's used on the first PP unit regularly.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
I believe he could score 30 if he's used on the first PP unit regularly.
- SuperSchennBros

no doubt
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
no doubt
- Crimsoninja


he'll be happy to reach 26 +/- 4
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
well.. yeah, I'm obviously not a top talent because first Ob threatened me with the ECHL and then I had to sign in the KHL for 3 rubles and a half eaten vatrushka.
- Doc_Sarcasm


You got jipped comrade.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
well.. yeah, I'm obviously not a top talent because first Ob threatened me with the ECHL and then I had to sign in the KHL for 3 rubles and a half eaten vatrushka.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Well you need more message board development which won't happen in the KHL.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
he'll be happy to reach 26 +/- 4
- ob18


It's all usage dependent. I hope Berube's grand plan isn't to just slide Schenn to LW so Vinny can play the middle.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:23 PM ET
It's all usage dependent. I hope Berube's grand plan isn't to just slide Schenn to LW so Vinny can play the middle.
- Jsaquella

of all the combos ive seen posted, the ones that interest me the most have G and Jake split up...which i know you're a big advocate of.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:24 PM ET
of all the combos ive seen posted, the ones that interest me the most have G and Jake split up...which i know you're a big advocate of.
- Crimsoninja


I'd do that regardless of Vinny being here or not. I'd probably split Read and Couturier, too
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:39 PM ET
Tomahawks boy Chris butler just signed for 650k with the blues


Is nick Schultz really twice the dman he is? Guy played 20 mins a night for Calgary
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:40 PM ET
I'd do that regardless of Vinny being here or not. I'd probably split Read and Couturier, too
- Jsaquella


I bet you hope Brangelina breaks up too!

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:03 PM ET
I can totally understand not being the best in all aspects, I can even understand being below average in an aspect or two, depending on the sport. My problem is when a top talent isnt even adequate in one or more aspects of the game.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Usually when a top talent isn't even adequate in one or more aspects of the game, it's due to some kind of apathy or work ethic issue. Or injury. I don't think the former is an issue with Lecavalier.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:05 PM ET
of all the combos ive seen posted, the ones that interest me the most have G and Jake split up...which i know you're a big advocate of.
- Crimsoninja


Catch 22 for me. Like the idea of splitting them up. But then there really isn't an ideal top line winger to play with Giroux.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
I bet you hope Brangelina breaks up too!


- PhillySportsGuy

I hated it when Ross and Rachel broke up.
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