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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 18 @ 7:53 PM ET
It wont matter if they have Quick back there until the D gets an infusion of higher end talent.

When Timonen was still in his prime they brought in another warhorse in Pronger to push them over the top.

- flyer_nutter



I agree 100%. The D absolutely needs overhauled. I was just saying that Mason can be "that guy" as one of the pieces to the Stanley Cup puzzle.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 18 @ 7:54 PM ET
Oh man I'm about to put way too much time into this...
- JAKEw1234


Agreed
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 18 @ 7:55 PM ET
Agreed
- jmatchett383

Shoulda just JR'd it.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 7:58 PM ET
Shoulda just JR'd it.
- JAKEw1234


You need to go on a long vacation and enjoy the summer.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 18 @ 7:59 PM ET
You need to go on a long vacation and enjoy the summer.
- ob18

Three weeks in august
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 18 @ 7:59 PM ET
Actually they were mediocre after the deadline going 10-9-1.
- Feanor


Yeah, the Blues were a very good team all season and Miller didn't do all that much to impress while he was there. Which is why he's not there any longer.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:01 PM ET
Three weeks in august
- JAKEw1234


Go now
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 18 @ 8:01 PM ET
Actually they were mediocre after the deadline going 10-9-1.
- Feanor

Actually the Blues had a strong record of 9-3-1 right after the deadline in March. They were one of, if not the hottest team in the league at that time. They had a pour April going 2-6-0. They lost their last 6 games of the season in a row.

Maybe my Math is off but it was actually 11-9-1
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:11 PM ET
I agree 100%. The D absolutely needs overhauled. I was just saying that Mason can be "that guy" as one of the pieces to the Stanley Cup puzzle.
- Pelle31Forever


I wouldn't say that it needs to be overhauled. It's just missing one player. That dynamic all situations #1 defenseman.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 18 @ 8:29 PM ET
I wouldn't say that it needs to be overhauled. It's just missing one player. That dynamic all situations #1 defenseman.
- MJL

Pretty much.

I didn't like our pairing last season of Streit and Grossmann or Schenn and whomever he was paired with leading up to the deadline. I think our Coaching staff had other options they didn't look into.

I don't think Grossmann is nearly as bad a player as some make him out to be, nor do I think he's as prone to injury as many believe.

I don't believe Kimmo Timonen is the player he once was two or three seasons ago. If we can manage to upgrade any one of our current defenseman spots for a true number 1, we're in much better shape.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
Pretty much.

I didn't like our pairing last season of Streit and Grossmann or Schenn and whomever he was paired with leading up to the deadline. I think our Coaching staff had other options they didn't look into.

I don't think Grossmann is nearly as bad a player as some make him out to be, nor do I think he's as prone to injury as many believe.

I don't believe Kimmo Timonen is the player he once was two or three seasons ago. If we can manage to upgrade any one of our current defenseman spots for a true number 1, we're in much better shape.

- SuperSchennBros



Having that player makes everyone around them a better player. And it slots players in the right roles.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
i hated his terrible armadilla hat and chrome paint job and john brown mattress pads. i would have preferred joseph as well, even though JvB played quite well for them.
- hammarby31

I actually liked the Chrome. He was a very good goalie for that team and for his career, I cant deny that. But I will never accept him. For the years he killed us with the Rags and especially with Fl in 96.The situation with signing him over CuJo, him giving up those shortside goals, regardless on how well he played, losing to Joseph and the Laffs only fuels my hate
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
Weary, Leery, and Wary.... they were the Three Stooges, right?
- Doc_Sarcasm










-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:06 PM ET
Bad Company was awesome..

Waiting for Skynyrd at the Susquehanna Bank Center
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
On the surface, they looked like they were right there w/ LA, CHI and SJ, but a look under the hood showed that their bottom-end depth just didn't match up. It's no surprise that it eventually caught up with them, and as you said, was probably hastened by adding Ott. Losing Sobotka is a dagger.

Did you get a chance to see Dimitri Filipovic's snazzy tiered breakdown of every team? It visualized what the Blues were up against in the West:

- Part 1: Eastern Conference Forwards
- Part 2: Western Conference Forwards
- Part 3: Eastern Conference Defensemen
- Part 4: Western Conference Defensemen

- Tomahawk


That's some good stuff. They're going to miss Sobotka.

Meanwhile, the Flyers should be trying to clone Timonen.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 9:11 PM ET
Bad Company was awesome..

Waiting for Skynyrd at the Susquehanna Bank Center

- Giroux_Is_God


Ohhh-ho! That smell.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
Ohhh-ho! That smell.
- Jsaquella

Yeah that smell is weed and B.O.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 9:39 PM ET
Yeah that smell is weed and B.O.
- Giroux_Is_God

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:16 PM ET
http://www.foxsports.com/...om-emanski-profile-071714 his is awesome

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:56 PM ET
Dreger says Rangers are close to a one year deal with Lee Stempniak.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:03 AM ET
I could care less
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:14 AM ET
wore a flyers practice jersey tonight at my skate for the first time since i've been here in NM. best performance i've had. coincidence? i think not.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 19 @ 2:12 AM ET
I could care less
- PhillySportsGuy

Seriously?

These are things we don't joke about.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jul 19 @ 3:17 AM ET
Seriously?

These are things we don't joke about.

- Giroux_Is_God

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