Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Parks, National TV, Remembering Tertyshny and Mickey
Author Message
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
2 years, ~ $2.5M per
- jmatchett383


thanks

good deal for them
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
Dont get me started on Schenn. I have been preaching that we need to deal him now while he still has trade value. I honestly cant see him being any better than maybe a 50-55 point player. That isnt good enough for a 2nd line center.
- GOA88


He's also only 22. I think he will get better, if they get him complimentary linemates and leave him in one spot.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
Colorado also got O'Reilly re-signed before arbitration.

EDIT: 2 years, $6mm AAV
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
He's also only 22. I think he will get better, if they get him complimentary linemates and leave him in one spot.
- Jsaquella


Exactly, the guy was all over the lineup last year. Let he play in the same position with the same 2 other players for a few months before writing him off.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
Exactly, the guy was all over the lineup last year. Let he play in the same position with the same 2 other players for a few months before writing him off.
- BiggE


I don't particularly like him with Simmonds. I'd like to see him play with Voracek, myself, or Read
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
I gess then I don't see him helping much more on the top line then where he does now. Propular are not but i don't see a top line guy. If Giroux and Voracek are staying together you need someone a little more physicall and shooter first I think.
- J35Bacher


I think he could be a 30 goal, good two way winger on the first line.

Also, I'd be splitting Giroux and Voracek.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
Colorado also got O'Reilly re-signed before arbitration.

EDIT: 2 years, $6mm AAV

- Jsaquella

Big cap hit and then he's a UFA, correct? Yeesh.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
Big cap hit and then he's a UFA, correct? Yeesh.
- aightwebang17


I believe he will be a RFA when done, but not certain.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
Dont get me started on Schenn. I have been preaching that we need to deal him now while he still has trade value. I honestly cant see him being any better than maybe a 50-55 point player. That isnt good enough for a 2nd line center.
- GOA88


55 points would put you in the top 30 scoring centers in the league. 50 points would make you the 40th highest scoring center in the league.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary

50-55 points is absolutely good enough for a 2nd line center.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
He's also only 22. I think he will get better, if they get him complimentary linemates and leave him in one spot.
- Jsaquella


Nonsense. He's 22, and will likely never get any better. I mean, just look at JvR. Dude stagnated at 21.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
2 years, $2.475M per
- jmatchett383


Massive overpayment. The Rags are gonna suck this year! I love it!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
Nonsense. He's 22, and will likely never get any better. I mean, just look at JvR. Dude stagnated at 21.
- jmatchett383


Yeah, we're (frank)ed.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
I believe he will be a RFA when done, but not certain.
- Jsaquella

I think it's 7 NHL seasons after the new contract expires which means UFA.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
55 points would put you in the top 30 scoring centers in the league. 50 points would make you the 40th highest scoring center in the league.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary

50-55 points is absolutely good enough for a 2nd line center.

- Feanor



It's a dam good total for a 2nd line Center.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
I think it's 7 NHL seasons after the new contract expires which means UFA.
- aightwebang17



7 Accrued NHL seasons or 27 years of age. Whichever comes first. So I think you're right, he'll be a UFA when his deal expires.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
I don't particularly like him with Simmonds. I'd like to see him play with Voracek, myself, or Read
- Jsaquella


You think you could keep up with them?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
His numbers in the 12/13 lockout shortened season prorated to 67 points over a full 82 game season.
- MJL



the overall trend is still grim
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
I think it's 7 NHL seasons after the new contract expires which means UFA.
- aightwebang17


Crap, I miscounted the number of seasons, yeah he'd be a UFA.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
You think you could keep up with them?
- jmatchett383


Depends if the Zamboni has a Hemi
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
Do yourself a favor and look around the NHL at full season stats for teams. You'll find that 50-55 point totals for a 2nd line center is a good total. For instance, last season, there were 27 Centers in the entire League who scored 55 or more points. There are 30 teams in the League.
- MJL

Would you think that Schenn lived up to the hype if thats all he becomes?
Vinny has been the 2nd line center on Tampa for years. Playing behind Richards or Stamkos. 70 pt guy
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
the overall trend is still grim
- Doc_Sarcasm



Depends on perspective. I didn't expect him to be the Lecavalier of old. All he has to do is play as well as he can, and provide 2nd line offense. If he can score 25 goals and 25-30 assists, what's wrong with that? Not expecting him to be a top line player anymore.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
Would you think that Schenn lived up to the hype if thats all he becomes?
- GOA88



Hype is just hype. I think he can be a 60 point player in this league at some point. That's a solid player. And hopefully he makes gains in his all around game.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
You think you could keep up with them?
- jmatchett383

GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
Hype is just hype. I think he can be a 60 point player in this league at some point. That's a solid player. And hopefully he makes gains in his all around game.
- MJL

I certainly hope so. Cause if he doesnt... who will??? We wont have that 1-2 punch at center that most cup teams have.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 23 @ 10:17 AM ET
Depends on perspective. I didn't expect him to be the Lecavalier of old. All he has to do is play as well as he can, and provide 2nd line offense. If he can score 25 goals and 25-30 assists, what's wrong with that? Not expecting him to be a top line player anymore.
- MJL

Agreed. I never expected 40-50 goals
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21  Next