Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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I have no opinion for this hire. Unless he's been given the NHL's version of tenure, he's nothing more than a stop gap. 90% chance we all forget him 2 or 3 years from now. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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if youre a well edcucated fan then you should know Nolan is bad news.
I'm not trying to offend anybody but its frustrating when I come on here and share what I know and everybody gains up on me. That's why I dont post much anymore. - Homer
He's polarizing, but he gets jobs, and players love him. He IMO will instill a hard working atmosphere here. I have argued that hard work will never trump talent, but the talent is coming.... They will learn not to coast through the year like the players did under Rolston and the last few years of Ruff |
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Homer
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 10.05.2006
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I couldn't care less about whether he did that or not. That's something he'll have to live with personally, and quite frankly, none of my business. It's irrelevant, and I highly doubt that's why he and Muckler didn't get along, or why he couldn't get another job in the league for another 10 years.
Ted Nolan basically has the ability to make really bad to mediocre teams get their fanbases to feel better about themselves, nothing more. - buffalofan19
Amen |
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cabin
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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I appreciate the info. The insights are always interesting. Regardless if they fall in line with the opinions of others here.
Nolan is quite the character, and it seems he is a placeholder. I'm not anticipating brilliance out of any of the coaches that are brought in for the next 2 years. - thatsapickle
Same here Pickles. We have to ice a team and we want it to be built the right way. Some people want us to do nothing and hope to get the star child . and THEN hire all the godsend hockey gods to run the team and get the players to make it an allstar winning team. Won't happen. I think ts every GM's dream to accomplish that. It's not a new dream and isn't all that easy to do or every team would be doing it. |
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grand-magus
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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I couldn't care less about whether he did that or not. That's something he'll have to live with personally, and quite frankly, none of my business. It's irrelevant, and I highly doubt that's why he and Muckler didn't get along, or why he couldn't get another job in the league for another 10 years.
Ted Nolan basically has the ability to make really bad to mediocre teams get their fanbases to feel better about themselves, nothing more. - buffalofan19
I know you don't care and none of us care, but people who would have to work with him might care is all that I am trying to say |
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cabin
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Hey Ken. - BuffaloHardHat
Off to install some flooring in a few |
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BuffaloHardHat
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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Off to install some flooring in a few - cabin
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Homer
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 10.05.2006
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He's polarizing, but he gets jobs, and players love him. He IMO will instill a hard working atmosphere here. I have argued that hard work will never trump talent, but the talent is coming.... They will learn not to coast through the year like the players did under Rolston and the last few years of Ruff - sbroads24
He gets jobs? He waited a decade between jobs.
He will probably get the boys to play hard, and thats great, but its a young team, they also need to be tought the finer points of hockey, and he's just not that guy. |
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joshs
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Location: cheektowaga, NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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Yo no matter how any one feels no point getting upset about it. |
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thatsapickle
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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Amen - Homer
I think Nolan knows his role. Get the best out of players that need a kick in the rear. If we can get solid players (Ennis/Hodgson/Grigorenko) out of his antics, or pieces for others (Stafford/Stewart) at the deadline, he will have met my goals for him. Other than that, he's a place holder for when this team is interesting.
I'm not discrediting what Nolan brings, but I am not saying he's any sort of savior. The coaches brought in will aide the team to get the pieces they need and then be an afterthought.
My $0.02. |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Same here Pickles. We have to ice a team and we want it to be built the right way. Some people want us to do nothing and hope to get the star child . and THEN hire all the godsend hockey gods to run the team and get the players to make it an allstar winning team. Won't happen. I think ts every GM's dream to accomplish that. It's not a new dream and isn't all that easy to do or every team would be doing it. - cabin
It's very easy to do. Darcy did it last year. If Murray really wants Eichel, he'd have no trouble doing it again this year. The only obstacle is PR and getting spanked for intentional tanking (though it likely won't happen).
As much as there is reason to believe that this team will be much improved, there's just as much a chance that they under achieve. Players are improved, depth is still weak, a major injury or two to key guys could put us right back in the basement.
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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He's polarizing, but he gets jobs, and players love him. He IMO will instill a hard working atmosphere here. I have argued that hard work will never trump talent, but the talent is coming.... They will learn not to coast through the year like the players did under Rolston and the last few years of Ruff - sbroads24
Every professional league has players, coaches and front office personnel that have no business being employed or at least been around far too long. The fact that he gets jobs can just as easily be a testament to who he knows. In fact, this is exactly the case.
And the Sabres didn't just coast under Rolston. They flat out stopped playing for him, if they even started at all during the season. You could have put a statue of Peter Griffin behind the bench and you would have got an exponential amount of effort from the team once Rolston was fired. |
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BuffaloHardHat
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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Homer, just so you know and to set the record straight.
I appreciate any type of "inside info" some have to share.
I also respect your opinion like I respect everyone elses here.
I just wish people would wait till Nolan actually falls on face (if he in fact does) to "rip him a new one".
Thank you. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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He gets jobs? He waited a decade between jobs.
He will probably get the boys to play hard, and thats great, but its a young team, they also need to be tought the finer points of hockey, and he's just not that guy. - Homer
Then our GM made a horrible decision keeping him and the rebuild is doomed. The end.
I myself have more faith that Murray is not a moron and didn't keep a coach that will ruin the future of this team. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Every professional league has players, coaches and front office personnel that have no business being employed or at least been around far too long. The fact that he gets jobs can just as easily be a testament to who he knows. In fact, this is exactly the case.
And the Sabres didn't just coast under Rolston. They flat out stopped playing for him, if they even started at all during the season. You could have put a statue of Peter Griffin behind the bench and you would have got an exponential amount of effort from the team once Rolston was fired. - buffalofan19
Great then it's not out of the ordinary so we can stop complaining |
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thatsapickle
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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It's very easy to do. Darcy did it last year. If Murray really wants Eichel, he'd have no trouble doing it again this year. The only obstacle is PR and getting spanked for intentional tanking (though it likely won't happen).
As much as there is reason to believe that this team will be much improved, there's just as much a chance that they under achieve. Players are improved, depth is still weak, a major injury or two to key guys could put us right back in the basement. - Sabresfan-365
I feel like we aren't the only team looking at this option. It's better to appeal to the fans with an on-ice product that is competitive than to throw the towel in from the get go. I am not anticipating being better than 26th (that's a stretch) in the standings, but at least the games should be worth watching/listening to |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Great then it's not out of the ordinary so we can stop complaining - sbroads24
I said it's not out of the ordinary. It doesn't make it any more acceptable. |
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zdp1189
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Joined: 01.11.2014
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So what coaches that are available would some sabres fans want other than nolan? |
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mhp
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Is there a more polarizing figure in Buffalo sports than Ted Nolan? I like Ted, he seems to inspire and motivate his players and if anyone has ever played this game, you would love to play for a guy like Ted. Nolan seems to be a positive influence and I could care less about the other stuff about him. We know he won't be here long term and he probably is a bridge but give him a full season, jeez! |
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You have an agenda with him.
It is so obvious.
Why not just do what I asked?
Why not wait to cast stones at the man until Easter?
We will know much more about him and his coaching ability by then.
If you say no, then you certainly have an agenda. - BuffaloHardHat
Why take what Homer or anyone else says about Nolan or anyone else on the Sabres on a message board so personally? They could care less about you or I. We all have opinions, we post them, discuss them and call it a day. |
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Homer
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Location: Parts Unknown Joined: 10.05.2006
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Homer, just so you know and to set the record straight.
I appreciate any type of "inside info" some have to share.
I also respect your opinion like I respect everyone elses here.
I just wish people would wait till Nolan actually falls on face (if he in fact does) to "rip him a new one".
Thank you. - BuffaloHardHat
All I'm trying to say is the stuff I know about him, its hard for me to like him as a person or a coach. If he finds a way to win or at least makes us entertaining then great.
And for the record, I used to like the guy before I heard all this stuff. He's just not for me. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I said it's not out of the ordinary. It doesn't make it any more acceptable. - buffalofan19
If every team in every sport does it then it obviously is |
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grand-magus
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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He gets jobs? He waited a decade between jobs.
He will probably get the boys to play hard, and thats great, but its a young team, they also need to be tought the finer points of hockey, and he's just not that guy. - Homer
Trottier won't help in that area? Is is he a scrub, too? |
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BuffaloHardHat
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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