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MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Karlsson makes 6.5. Chara 6.9. Mcdonaugh 4.7. Pietrangelo 6.5
- GardinerExpress

Chara was pre lockout
McDonough -25 yrs old
Karlsson -24 yrs old
Alex p - 24 years old

Teams bought ufa years on all these players
elcabong
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm not sure... I lost my GPS, QC
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
ok so you are bringing up a guy that has been retired 15 years to make your point? pretty dumb.
How about Pietrangelo, Karlsson and Mcdonaugh. They make 4.7-6.5. no cap circumventing.

I hope PK wrangles every cent out of the habs. 9, 9.5 whatever. Highest paid d-man in league history and the guy is top 10 at best

- GardinerExpress

PK does get into your heads, doesn't he?
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
PK does get into your heads, doesn't he?
- elcabong


"Hey Marty your'e on Subby Cam..hey Pricey, say something!"

GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
Chara was pre lockout
McDonough -25 yrs old
Karlsson -24 yrs old
Alex p - 24 years old

Teams bought ufa years on all these players

- MTL1


PK 25 years old. team planning to buy UFA years. so why is it gonna cost 2-2.5 mil more per year?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
"Hey Marty your'e on Subby Cam..hey Pricey, say something!"
- GardinerExpress


livid.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
PK 25 years old. team planning to buy UFA years. so why is it gonna cost 2-2.5 mil more per year?
- GardinerExpress

That's their current ages - they have played a year or 2 already off their deals at 24/25

Pk at 25 is about to sign a new deal

Once people can understand that then the pk bridge contract will make more sense
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
That's their current ages - they have played a year or 2 already off their deals
25 at 25 is about to sign a new deal

Once people can understand that then the pk bridge contract will make more sense

- MTL1


yeah awesome. Cant wait to here about how the habs are actually gonna save money in 2020
elcabong
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm not sure... I lost my GPS, QC
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
Watch out could get banned for that. I'm pretty sure some people got banned yesterday for making clitsome jokes.
- JVR_42_PK81

It's about staying on topic. Nowhere in Ek's blog was Reimer or any Leaf mentioned.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
all this talk of Subban getting 9 million plus a year is crazy.

He should end up with a contract like Doughty has, something like 7 million a year. If he wants to be like Crosby, give him 7.6 million a year so it matches his number.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
PK does get into your heads, doesn't he?
- elcabong

I wonder what the leafs record was after the jvr jersey tug mocking pk
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
ok so you are bringing up a guy that has been retired 15 years to make your point? pretty dumb.
How about Pietrangelo, Karlsson and Mcdonaugh. They make 4.7-6.5. no cap circumventing.

I hope PK wrangles every cent out of the habs. 9, 9.5 whatever. Highest paid d-man in league history and the guy is top 10 at best

- GardinerExpress



All 3 players you just named signed straight out of entry level, resulting in 4 of their 7 year contracts being RFA years. PK's last contract was essentially what he signed when in the same position as those players.

Now he's only 2 years away from UFA.


The point I've been making for 3 posts, and the reason I went to the extreme measure of bringing up Gretzky to try and drive home a point, is you're comparing contracts that aren't being signed in the same career or monetary situations, it's useless.

A TV used to cost $200, now they're $1000.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
Thanks for the update. Never have really got why you can't trade players on the LTIR.
- JVR_42_PK81


Would you go buy a new car with no engine or doors on the car
Similar to that
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
all this talk of Subban getting 9 million plus a year is crazy.

He should end up with a contract like Doughty has, something like 7 million a year. If he wants to be like Crosby, give him 7.6 million a year so it matches his number.

- jimbro83


Those contracts were given in different situations. How much do you think Tavares will make in his next contract ? Less than Crosby?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Great player. So dynamic. But imo one cant be considered a top 5 defenceman unless theyre just as dominant in their own end.
He isnt that just yet

- hugefemale dog77


top 5 is a stretch and i don't think he's in there.
you're right about being dominant in his own zone--he's not, at all. but i do get a kick out of people talking about him being a defensive liability.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Another issue is coaching and how PK feels about the current coaching situation Montreal. We saw last year and the plows how PK grew frustrated by his playing time or situation she was being put into

um, what?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
holy smokes this is brutal writing.
- mark_laforest


yeah that was embarrassing. even by this site's standards. it's like Ek was having a stroke as he wrote it.
NugentHallberle
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jul 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
"I know it is it is a debatable point, but in my opinion he's one of the top five defenseman the NHL" - Eklund

Chara
Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
Suter

All substantially better d-men than Subban... You could even throw in Karlsson, OEL, and Seabrook who I'd take over PK. I'd say he's in the Top 10 at the most.

That said, he's still worth $8MM/yr at this point.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
Those contracts were given in different situations. How much do you think Tavares will make in his next contract ? Less than Crosby?
- BashCH


don't bother with these explanations. basic economics are lost on the majority of this crowd.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:41 PM ET
don't bother with these explanations. basic economics are lost on the majority of this crowd.
- DoubleDown


I'm losing my mind with all the people comparing contracts at face value with no regard to context or situation.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:41 PM ET
Those contracts were given in different situations. How much do you think Tavares will make in his next contract ? Less than Crosby?
- BashCH


Tavares will be a UFA his next contract, not still an RFA
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
"I know it is it is a debatable point, but in my opinion he's one of the top five defenseman the NHL" - Eklund

Chara
Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
Suter

All substantially better d-men than Subban... You could even throw in Karlsson, OEL, and Seabrook who I'd take over PK. I'd say he's in the Top 10 at the most.

That said, he's still worth $8MM/yr at this point.

- NugentHallberle


Karlsson... i don't think you can really compare Karlsson to any other defencemen. but OEL and Seabrook over Subban? you're going to be alone on that one.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Tavares will be a UFA his next contract, not still an RFA
- jimbro83



Doughty had 4 years of RFA left, Subban only has 2, and it's a different CBA and higher cap
elcabong
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm not sure... I lost my GPS, QC
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
"I know it is it is a debatable point, but in my opinion he's one of the top five defenseman the NHL" - Eklund

Chara
Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
Suter

All substantially better d-men than Subban... You could even throw in Karlsson, OEL, and Seabrook who I'd take over PK. I'd say he's in the Top 10 at the most.

That said, he's still worth $8MM/yr at this point.

- NugentHallberle


So according to you, he's not worthy to be in their company but should get paid more than they do?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
Karlsson... i don't think you can really compare Karlsson to any other defencemen. but OEL and Seabrook over Subban? you're going to be alone on that one.

- DoubleDown


Even Chara. He's still good but starting to get pretty old.
Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
I'm losing my mind with all the people comparing contracts at face value, with no regard to context or situation.
- ehabs9

Words of wisdom from one of the greatest poster on HB

They are haters of the Habs. They will always exist, because any team with the history that the Habs have, regardless of their struggles since 1993, will promote jealousy. These comments and such, are the result of that.
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