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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 4:07 PM ET
Slotting system? I sort of know about this stuff.

And then you have the rule 5 draft and all that poop.

Baseball is weird.

- Giroux_Is_God


It's way more complicated than you can imaginr
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:08 PM ET
It's way more complicated than you can imaginr
- PhillySportsGuy

Maybe that's why Amaro sucks so bad
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 4:11 PM ET
Given:
Baseball = World Series
Football = Super Bowl
Eagles = Football
Phillies = Baseball

Therefore:

Baseball = World Series = Phillies
Football = Super Bowl = Eagles

Conclusion:
It can be inferred the Eagles and the World Series are unrelated, and thus the Eagles cannot win the World Series.

NEXT

- Giroux_Is_God


Who's to say they won't switch to baseball? Or that the Super Bowl/Lombardi Trophy won't be renamed "The World Series?"

Yah mean?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 4:12 PM ET
It's way more complicated than you can imaginr
- PhillySportsGuy


So, as I understand it, any team can put in a waiver claim of anyone...so theoretically, the Phillies could put in a claim for Mike Trout.

But as long as the team that has the player says, "No," it amounts to nothing?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
Who's to say they won't switch to baseball? Or that the Super Bowl/Lombardi Trophy won't be renamed "The World Series?"

Yah mean?

- jmatchett383

...
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 7 @ 4:14 PM ET
Holy poop guys, you've been all over every sport since I've been gone expect for soccer, tennis, golf, and badminton... JEEZ.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:15 PM ET
So, as I understand it, any team can put in a waiver claim of anyone...so theoretically, the Phillies could put in a claim for Mike Trout.

But as long as the team that has the player says, "No," it amounts to nothing?

- jmatchett383

Not exactly. The player's team places him on waivers. Then, with the waiver order in effect, teams have X hours to place a claim. Whoever claims him highest in the order gets negotiating rights with the team to trade for that player.

At that point, the team that put the player on waivers in the first place can litrilly say "just kidding" and life goes on like nothing happened. Or, they can organize a trade.

So to go back to your example, the Phillies only have a chance at claiming/trading for Trout if the Angels place him on waivers. But even then, he would be claimed by a higher team in the waiver order, ya know?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
Holy poop guys, you've been all over every sport since I've been gone expect for soccer, tennis, golf, and badminton... JEEZ.
- FlyersGrace

Better than arguing over stats though, right?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
Better than arguing over stats though, right?
- Giroux_Is_God


How dare you.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
FOOTBALLBUZZ
- GOA88


Blood clots, and ass grabbing only goes so far....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Who's to say they won't switch to baseball? Or that the Super Bowl/Lombardi Trophy won't be renamed "The World Series?"

Yah mean?

- jmatchett383

The legalities of such a change would require a lengthy process by which shut up that's dumb.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
tennis...
- FlyersGrace


I'm up for discussing Genie...

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:26 PM ET
I'm up for discussing Genie...


- Tomahawk

Yeah I'd discuss her any day of the week
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 4:29 PM ET
Not exactly. The player's team places him on waivers. Then, with the waiver order in effect, teams have X hours to place a claim. Whoever claims him highest in the order gets negotiating rights with the team to trade for that player.

At that point, the team that put the player on waivers in the first place can litrilly say "just kidding" and life goes on like nothing happened. Or, they can organize a trade.

So to go back to your example, the Phillies only have a chance at claiming/trading for Trout if the Angels place him on waivers. But even then, he would be claimed by a higher team in the waiver order, ya know?

- Giroux_Is_God


Then why the hell would the Phillies put Cole Hamels on waivers?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
The legalities of such a change would require a lengthy process by which shut up that's dumb.
- BulliesPhan87


No, you're shut up that's dumb.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
Then why the hell would the Phillies put Cole Hamels on waivers?
- jmatchett383

It's like a testing the waters type thing. They put him out there to see who is interested.

Since the Cubs claimed him, they can trade him to the Cubs, or they can not do anything.

If no one claimed him, then Amaro knows interest is low, etc etc
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 4:34 PM ET
I'm up for discussing Genie...


- Tomahawk




I'm sorry, were you saying something?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
Holy poop guys, you've been all over every sport since I've been gone expect for soccer, tennis, golf, and badminton... JEEZ.
- FlyersGrace

You've brought up soccer twice today...

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
He's better than Flacco
- PhillySportsGuy


At choking.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
It's like a testing the waters type thing. They put him out there to see who is interested.

Since the Cubs claimed him, they can trade him to the Cubs, or they can not do anything.

If no one claimed him, then Amaro knows interest is low, etc etc

- Giroux_Is_God


Like on Papelbon.

Guys at this point of season need to clear waivers to be traded, too. So it allows a guy to be dealt in case of injury later on. Like say the Yankess have a run of 'pen injuries and and decide to take on Paps. Since he cleared waivers, the Phils can deal him.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 7 @ 4:39 PM ET
I'm up for discussing Genie...


- Tomahawk

She's like the good looking Romo of tennis... amirite?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 7 @ 4:50 PM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 22s

BREAKING: The #Flyers have agreed to terms on a one-year, two-way contract with free agent C Ryan White.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 7 @ 4:51 PM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 22s

BREAKING: The #Flyers have agreed to terms on a one-year, two-way contract with free agent C Ryan White.

- Jsaquella

Can he play D?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 7 @ 4:53 PM ET
Can he play D?
- feelingkettle


Not that I'm aware...4th liner type, grinder, physical

EDIT

http://www.habseyesonthep...e-profile-habs/in/5706794

White was relegated to a fourth line role, meaning he started 46.8% of his shifts in the defensive zone. No other member of the 2013-14 Canadiens faced more defensive zone starts. Despite this tough assignment, White managed to put up a reasonable offensive production, to the tune of two goals and four assists. Not exactly earth shattering numbers, however considering his deployment and offensive expectations going into the season White's production could be seen as decent.

Unfortunately for White, general manager Marc Bergevin did not tender him a qualifying offer, deciding instead to rely on a gluttony of available bottom-six players that possess a higher upside. His greatest assets, hustle and relentless effort, were not enough to convince Bergevin to extend the feisty forward, and I can't say I disagree with the decison. White possesses little to no offensive upside, a history of discipline issues, and an all-around lack of skill.

White did perform admirably on the penalty kill, however with the addition of Manny Malhotra, and the always impressive short-handed play of Lars Eller and Tomas Plekanec, the Habs could definitely afford to let him walk.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Aug 7 @ 4:55 PM ET
Not that I'm aware...4th liner type, grinder, physical
- Jsaquella

Useless
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