grand-magus
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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Dismiss my post all you want, but while a garbage team like Edmonton is at least on the right track to getting better, your garbage team (the worst in the league by far) is only getting worse. I hope you'll enjoy losing for at least the next five years! - MrData
Who was Montreal's analytics guy when they were winning all those cups in the 60's and 70's?
It doesn't take some fancy analytics "genius" to figure out that Edmonton's problem was a lack of good, accountable veteran leadership. That organization had no one there to show these kids - you know, the one's that had the NHL experience rammed down their throats before some of them were ready - how to be professional hockey players.
I don't dismiss analytics completely, but don't be so quick to just dismiss the good, old fashioned hockey mind, either. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Who was Montreal's analytics guy when they were winning all those cups in the 60's and 70's?
It doesn't take some fancy analytics "genius" to figure out that Edmonton's problem was a lack of good, accountable veteran leadership. That organization had no one there to show these kids - you know, the one's that had the NHL experience rammed down their throats before some of them were ready - how to be professional hockey players.
I don't dismiss analytics completely, but don't be so quick to just dismiss the good, old fashioned hockey mind, either. - grand-magus
As soon as every NHL franchise has an analytics specialist working for them, the playing field is leveled and it becomes less relevant.
It's a useful tool. Nothing more, and I'm a fan of advanced numbers |
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LetsGoIsles
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Irish 14
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Location: South Buffalo Joined: 01.25.2007
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thatsapickle
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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its not a fair comparison because no team in the NHL had analytics guys in the 60s or 70s...now that some teams do IE kings, hawks, those teams are at an "advantage" - LetsGoIsles
The Sabres have had an analytics guy for a few years. The point is that they are helpful, but not the end-all-be-all. |
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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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I've said it before:
If I could figure out a way to come up with a Fenwick/Corsi/Sabremetrics equivalent to the stock market, I'd probably never have to work again. |
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Irish 14
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Location: South Buffalo Joined: 01.25.2007
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Ryan Mallet being showcased ............thoughts |
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grand-magus
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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its not a fair comparison because no team in the NHL had analytics guys in the 60s or 70s...now that some teams do IE kings, hawks, those teams are at an "advantage" - LetsGoIsles
And there are plenty of teams that have analytics that blow, year after year.
There's no proof that it guarantees you anything.
LA, perhaps you could make a case for. But, in Chicago's case, they drafted high for a couple years and drafted top talent.
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grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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Ryan Mallet being showcased ............thoughts - Irish 14
Well, if he's no good for the Pats - who have a proven eye for talent - then I say, Stay away. |
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markyjoe
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 06.24.2011
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Ryan Mallet being showcased ............thoughts - Irish 14
If he looks good, I still think it would be Houston to trade for him. |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Ryan Mallet being showcased ............thoughts - Irish 14
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joshs
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Location: cheektowaga, NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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I think analytics is a useful tool but it shouldn't be the end of be all especially because this is more of a free flowing team game. It's not like it's machines playing. People lose concentration, have drama at home, maybe didn't get a good night sleep, tried something different, found something that motivated them for a shift, bored of routine and seeing the same faces every year etc etc.. |
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Rubber Mallet being showcased ............thoughts - Irish 14
Weird
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JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over Joined: 09.06.2012
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I've said it before:
If I could figure out a way to come up with a Fenwick/Corsi/Sabremetrics equivalent to the stock market, I'd probably never have to work again. - buffalofan19
I'm pretty sure they have it figured out already... Dark Pools and ultra fast internet connections not available to the public. |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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They couldn't just say 100?
- grand-magus
12/cs |
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grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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12/cs - cabin
Ah ha.
Shows how much I know.
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY Joined: 06.06.2014
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I try not to do ,math after 5pm - cabin
My house is "math free zone".
I, unfortunately, passed that down to my 3 boys.
Ask me a hockey trivia question, though, and I'm all over it.
I call my brain a vault of useless information. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Dismiss my post all you want, but while a garbage team like Edmonton is at least on the right track to getting better, your garbage team (the worst in the league by far) is only getting worse. I hope you'll enjoy losing for at least the next five years! - MrData
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/team-rankings/
and this was before the 2014 draft
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I'm all for giving EJ the year, but go out and sign Josh Freeman! We need some experience as a back up, Tuel and others are not the answer. Just looking what's out there, Freeman could fit the backup role. - Irish 14
I'd rather they sign rex grossman |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV Joined: 02.13.2007
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Well, if he's no good for the Pats - who have a proven eye for talent - then I say, Stay away. - grand-magus
I don't think that's the issue. Brady has stated he wants to play into his 40s. Mallett is already in his 4th season and has seen no real action. His rookie deal is probably close to being done. Trading him so they don't lose him for nothing is a smart move. |
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