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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
Eklund I believe posted Bob Ryab sweepstakes & the subsequent celebration of his typo became lore
- Jsaquella



Of course it was him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 7:18 PM ET
First PP D man almost doesnt even matter. They are just there to cycle the puck with G who is trying to get Jake open. G is the real QB of that unit.

Our PP has become incredibly predicable btw. I'm surprised it still works.

- hereticpride


I would disagree there. Timonen handled the puck well. But I think that adding Streit's big shot will make the PP better, and give them more options.

Every team's PP is predictable. Ovechkin led the NHL last season in PP goals. I think everybody in the arena knows that Backstrom is going to try and feed Ovechkin. But it still works.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
I doubt Dellow's professional conduct is the same as his blogging/tweeting persona... the guy was a lawyer working in a firm 9 to 5. I'm sure he understands that it's a different ball of wax and he'll have to comport himself in a certain fashion to fit into the culture.

As for the "enemies"... yikes.

- Tomahawk

90% of the slams on his site were directed at the Oilers. I think it speaks volumes that the organization he trashed was who hired him.

That or they're silencing one of their biggest critics. It has been a year since his first presentation, they took their time hiring him.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 7:23 PM ET
I would disagree there. Timonen handled the puck well. But I think that adding Streit's big shot will make the PP better, and give them more options.

Every team's PP is predictable. Ovechkin led the NHL last season in PP goals. I think everybody in the arena knows that Backstrom is going to try and feed Ovechkin. But it still works.

- MJL

Well yes, but I think the manner in which the Flyers set up the PP is becoming very predicable. G on the high boards playing toss with Kimmo until a lane opens up for G to shoot or pass to Jake. I guess as long as it works I cant complain but really you're just going to see teams start applying more pressure on Giroux.

Whoever is likely to replace Kimmo will probably be an upgrade. Streit, MDZ and AMac probably have better range to field a pass than Kimmo at this stage of his career. I would say each of those guys has a decent shot as well. Kimmo never really seemed like he wanted to take the shot. Not sure how much of that was coaching and how much of that was him though...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 7:33 PM ET
90% of the slams on his site were directed at the Oilers. I think it speaks volumes that the organization he trashed was who hired him.

That or they're silencing one of their biggest critics. It has been a year since his first presentation, they took their time hiring him.

- mayorofangrytown


That theory has been advanced, too
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 10 @ 7:55 PM ET
That theory has been advanced, too
- Jsaquella


You clever wordsmith, you.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Aug 10 @ 8:02 PM ET
Several flat out said there was nothing useful to be gained from early-generation of analytics that still get cited the most frequently (Corsi, Fenwick, etc) that they couldn't already observe with their own two eyes.
- bmeltzer


I'm not big on those two stats as such, but I think there are stats that could be developed that I wouldn't mind taking a look at. The thing is they might be very arbitrary in terms of what does and doesn't fit the criterion.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:08 PM ET
You clever wordsmith, you.
- tangent_man

terrorbull
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:11 PM ET
You clever wordsmith, you.
- tangent_man


No, seriously. There were columns on the Oilers hiring Dellow just to shut him up. His entire history-blogs, op eds, etc.-wiped.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:14 PM ET
No, seriously. There were columns on the Oilers hiring Dellow just to shut him up. His entire history-blogs, op eds, etc.-wiped.
- Jsaquella


He didn't have to accept the offer for the job
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
He didn't have to accept the offer for the job
- ob18

unless he really wanted the money
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:18 PM ET
unless he really wanted the money
- nails


It was an offer he couldn't refuse
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:18 PM ET
do either of you know how many contracts the flyers have out right now?
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
It was an offer he couldn't refuse
- ob18

heads of various animals including frank bialowas were involved
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
He didn't have to accept the offer for the job
- ob18


Hmm, NHL team decides to pay me to work for them and stop writing critical blogs? Yeah, I'd sell out, too.

It's not as if he's The Beatles refusing to let McDonald's use Hey Jude
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:21 PM ET
do either of you know how many contracts the flyers have out right now?
- nails


46, including Morin and Hagg who are slide eligible
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:21 PM ET
Hmm, NHL team decides to pay me to work for them and stop writing critical blogs? Yeah, I'd sell out, too.

It's not as if he's The Beatles refusing to let McDonald's use Hey Jude

- Jsaquella


I know
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:24 PM ET
I know
- ob18


Hell, if they paid me I'd write Dave Spadaro like praise of everyone in the organization.

Zac Rinaldo's just misunderstood and has a heart bigger than Texas. Jay Rosehill, reluctant sniper. Nick Grossmann is tougher than a $2 steak
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:26 PM ET
46, including Morin and Hagg who are slide eligible
- Jsaquella

so they have some left then
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:26 PM ET
so they have some left then
- nails


Plenty of room for Bob Ryab
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:45 PM ET
Plenty of room for Bob Ryab
- Jsaquella

i know it sounds like he may be a bit of a pain in the ass, but I still have hope they can take a shot at the hawks kid.
a scoring forward that is that age would be a nice addition
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
i know it sounds like he may be a bit of a pain in the ass, but I still have hope they can take a shot at the hawks kid.
a scoring forward that is that age would be a nice addition

- nails


For a EL contract, plus bonuses, why the Hell not?

If he sucks, it's $900K or so, depending on the structure and if he's good and earns the bonuses, it's great for the team on ice.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:53 PM ET
For a EL contract, plus bonuses, why the Hell not?

If he sucks, it's $900K or so, depending on the structure and if he's good and earns the bonuses, it's great for the team on ice.

- Jsaquella

yup.
I as concerned about the number of contracts.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
yup.
I as concerned about the number of contracts.

- nails


Operating so close to the cap has limited them. Handful of AHL guys and a few others signed by the Phantoms to non NHL deals help
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:00 PM ET
Operating so close to the cap has limited them. Handful of AHL guys and a few others signed by the Phantoms to non NHL deals help
- Jsaquella

yeah, things lie the white deal don't bother me. this is the time of year for two way contracts.
I know he has issues, but a guy like Penner unsigned is amazing. even more amazing is that someone wanted Riberio and his reported issues and no one will take penner and his chub
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