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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 13 @ 8:14 AM ET
He wants to be on the east coast. He's from the Boston area and his brother plays for the Panthers. I wouldn't rule out the Pens either He would have an excellent chance of playing with Malkin if he went to the pens.
- PhillySportsGuy


He basically has the pick of the litter
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 13 @ 8:42 AM ET
He basically has the pick of the litter
- Streit2ThePoint

Which IMHO is bullocks! Makes a mockery of the draft, why even have one if players can pout their way out of it. I don't like it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 13 @ 8:49 AM ET
Which IMHO is bullocks! Makes a mockery of the draft, why even have one if players can pout their way out of it. I don't like it.
- coffee junkie


Yep. 2 players out of the last 1470 have used an escape clause. Draft is a fraud!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 13 @ 8:55 AM ET
Which IMHO is bullocks! Makes a mockery of the draft, why even have one if players can pout their way out of it. I don't like it.
- coffee junkie


All players have options that they can choose to exercise. Or not.

I don't particularly have a problem with it. The kid cost himself a year of development and probably a little money. Whatever he is trying to accomplish, it has come at a cost to no one but himself.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:01 AM ET
He basically has the pick of the litter
- Streit2ThePoint



I'd be leery of signing the kid. He's demanding a top 6 role at least publicly. Seems to go against what Hexy is preaching in making the young kids really earn their spots
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 13 @ 9:05 AM ET
I'd be leery of signing the kid. He's demanding a top 6 role at least publicly. Seems to go against what Hexy is preaching in making the young kids really earn their spots
- Just5


Exactly. Which is why I don't think the Flyers are in the front of the race on this kid.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:08 AM ET
I'd be leery of signing the kid. He's demanding a top 6 role at least publicly. Seems to go against what Hexy is preaching in making the young kids really earn their spots
- Just5


Don't worry. He's not signing with the Flyers.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:11 AM ET
Don't worry. He's not signing with the Flyers.
- PLindbergh31


Whew. Bullet dodged!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:12 AM ET
Whew. Bullet dodged!
- Just5


I think the kid is a talent, not a fan of the way he's going about his business. He would certainly improve the Flyers roster.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:20 AM ET
Exactly. Which is why I don't think the Flyers are in the front of the race on this kid.
- Streit2ThePoint



Appease him , and tell him sure we got a top 6 spot for you, sign here. Then make him earn it. What's he going to do at that point?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:21 AM ET
I'd be leery of signing the kid. He's demanding a top 6 role at least publicly. Seems to go against what Hexy is preaching in making the young kids really earn their spots
- Just5


Not sure that makes him any different than any other UFA prospect... DeKeyser, Schultz, Frolin, etc, all those guys went to the teams that promised them the most.

Once they sign on the dotted line, and they become Flyers property, it's not like they're then obligated to play them if they can't handle it.

Edit: Jeremy Welsh got $300k cash for spending 1 day on the roster and a free pass into the 'Canes lineup... that didn't stop them from sending him down to start the next year and only calling him up for handful of games total before trading him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
He basically has the pick of the litter
- Streit2ThePoint


Rangers are an option as well. I think there's a much better chance of him joining a rival team than the Flyers
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
All players have options that they can choose to exercise. Or not.

I don't particularly have a problem with it. The kid cost himself a year of development and probably a little money. Whatever he is trying to accomplish, it has come at a cost to no one but himself.

- johndewar

Shultz actually made out better on it because it caused competition for his service. I think the same will happen here and he will make more money as a result. To the point of only 2 people doing it that is flawed logic. Just because a small sample has gone this route does not make it alright. I know Fraud! Comment was a joke but it is not what I wrote or meant. I have to go outside for the rest of the day and can't get into an argument about it but ask any CHI fan how they feel about the loophole or put yourself in their shoes. If this was a PHI prospect may here would be up in arms.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
Appease him , and tell him sure we got a top 6 spot for you, sign here. Then make him earn it. What's he going to do at that point?
- MJL


Cry to his mommy
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:25 AM ET
He is a RW though. Left handed shot has anyone read about a willingness to play LW?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:26 AM ET
Appease him , and tell him sure we got a top 6 spot for you, sign here. Then make him earn it. What's he going to do at that point?
- MJL


I don't even think a team will promise a top 6 role. They'll tell him he'll have the opportunity to compete for one. He'll need to choose the place he feels offers the best chance.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
He is a RW though. Left handed shot has anyone read about a willingness to play LW?
- Just5


I understand why they traded Hartnell, but losing a natural LW on a team that doesn't have many is really going to make the lineup difficult to set
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Aug 13 @ 9:31 AM ET
so with Downie joining the Pens I think this year we get to see a nice bruhaha. Could be fun time playing the Pens.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
I understand why they traded Hartnell, but losing a natural LW on a team that doesn't have many is really going to make the lineup difficult to set
- PhillySportsGuy


Simmer at 1LW... the rest falls in place.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
Simmer at 1LW... the rest falls in place.
- Tomahawk


Has he ever played LW?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:36 AM ET
Has he ever played LW?
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah.

That trio already has chemistry from the PP, too.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:37 AM ET
Don't worry. He's not signing with the Flyers.
- PLindbergh31

dont see why he would want to come to the Flyers?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
Simmer at 1LW... the rest falls in place.
- Tomahawk

Im all for it.

Simmonds-Giroux-Voracek DO IT

That likely puts Schenn and Vinny together again though. NOT GOOD
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
Schenn has a lot more experience at LW than Simmonds. We also have Read, Raffl, Umberger, and PEB who can play LW.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 13 @ 9:42 AM ET
Schenn has a lot more experience at LW than Simmonds. We also have Read, Raffl, Umberger, and PEB who can play LW.
- Feanor

Lets not pencil this Bellemare guy into the lineup until we actually see him play. As far as Im concerned he is a Phantom.
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