Crosby is the best player currently. But he would be a distant 3rd to them in terms of scoring.
- jmatchett383

Crosby isnt even better than Sakic. IMO.

It's certainly an interesting debate. I believe they would still put up more points than anyone in the league today, but some of the records Gretzky has like most goals in a season and assists in a season would not be the same in today's game. Just my opinion
- Streit2ThePoint

The magnitude may be lower, but they'd still dominate.

Crosby isnt even better than Sakic. IMO.
- GOA88

In terms of pure puck sill? He absolutely is.

I cant find a video.....
- GOA88

Not to downplay what Lindros can do but it happens.

Crosby isnt even better than Sakic. IMO.
- GOA88

Of course he is...

Crosby isnt even better than Sakic. IMO.
- GOA88

Hell yes he is.

Look, I like the players from the 80s, but you have to compare players to their competition in the years they actually played.

The numbers today may be lower, but the proportional gap between Crosby and the rest of the league is, I'd argue, similar.

So I'm going to a wedding tonight. What song should I request to dance to?
- Streit2ThePoint

Instant Replay

You think so? It'd be interesting what fan reaction would be like, if their favorite team's goalie came in with, say, a 2.94 GAA and .899 SVPCT for an entire season.

I say that because fans are so used to not seeing a ton of goals, every goal scored, especially weaker ones, are analyzed to the Nth degree.

If we got back to the early-to-mid 90s, where 6-10 guys were pumping in 55-65 goals and 12-15 guys were topping 100 points, with corresponding scoring increases throughout rosters...man.

Some people would lose their poop, considering the types of goals that would be going in.

- AllInForFlyers

Lol, don't think it'll reach the level of the '80's, but there are certainly trends that point toward an eventual tipping point down the road:

- continued flushing out of unskilled players/roles (enforcers, Doug Murrays, etc),
- avg skill level of incoming kids seems to keep increasing (esp. dmen),
- goaltending technique/technology will eventually plateau,
- league-wide tactical move toward more puck possession,
- tracking tech will help expose weaknesses in def. systems/lineups with greater precision,
- continued league interest in tinkering w/ the rules.

So I'm going to a wedding tonight. What song should I request to dance to?
- Streit2ThePoint

Ebolarama

Hell yes he is.

Look, I like the players from the 80s, but you have to compare players to their competition in the years they actually played.

The numbers today may be lower, but the proportional gap between Crosby and the rest of the league is, I'd argue, similar.
- BINGO!

I'm more of a 90's guy myself. It seemed like each team had at least a dynamic duo, a number 1 defenseman and a top goalie. Finding the support seemed more complicated then finding stars.

Lindros, LeClair, Desjardins, Hextall

Sakic Forsberg, Foote, Roy

Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Vernon

Messier, Graves, Leectch, Ritcher

Roenick, Amonte, Chelios, Belfour

etc

(frank)ing hate this ice bucket poop.

How bout donating to the (frank)ing charity and actually helping instead of dumping cold water on your face like an idiot.

(This is more for people my age that I see doing on Facebook 97 times per day. I'm sure Therrien donated)

Mini rant over

Jfc

Ebolarama
- BINGO!

hey Bingo, looking at your pic I am thinking Monster Mash

FWIW
Best Flyers playmaker: Clarke
Best goal scorer: Kerr
Hardest shot: Leach
best PP QB: Mark Howe, narrowly edges Pronger
best skater: Howe
best penalty killer: tie- Clarke & Dave Poulin
best fighter: tough one, I'll go with Dave Brown
hardest hitter: Eric Lindros
strongest player: Lindros by a hair over Kerr
smartest player: Howe
best stickhandler: Rick Macleish
hardest worker: Clarke
best leader: Clarke
most skilled: Lindros narrowly over Howe and Giroux

discuss

(frank)ing hate this ice bucket poop.

How bout donating to the (frank)ing charity and actually helping instead of dumping cold water on your face like an idiot.

(This is more for people my age that I see doing on Facebook 97 times per day. I'm sure Therrien donated)

Mini rant over

Jfc
- Giroux_Is_God

my cousin died of ALS a few years ago so I've been donating for a while. The ice bucket challenge has brought tremendous awareness. They've raised 5 times what they normally raise

(frank)ing hate this ice bucket poop.

How bout donating to the (frank)ing charity and actually helping instead of dumping cold water on your face like an idiot.

(This is more for people my age that I see doing on Facebook 97 times per day. I'm sure Therrien donated)

Mini rant over

Jfc
- Giroux_Is_God

I view it like wearing pink for breast cancer awareness. Sure, people just wear pink clothing, but it raises awareness which in turn does bring in donations.

(frank)ing hate this ice bucket poop.

How bout donating to the (frank)ing charity and actually helping instead of dumping cold water on your face like an idiot.

(This is more for people my age that I see doing on Facebook 97 times per day. I'm sure Therrien donated)

Mini rant over

Jfc
- Giroux_Is_God

Apparently, most people do both.

my cousin died of ALS a few years ago so I've been donating for a while. The ice bucket challenge has brought tremendous awareness. They've raised 5 times what try normally raise
- PhillySportsGuy

My brother-in-law was diagnosed with ALS a few months ago and its just horrible. Anything that raises awareness and helps to fight this terrible disease is a good thing!

FWIW
Best Flyers playmaker: Clarke
Best goal scorer: Kerr
Hardest shot: Leach
best PP QB: Mark Howe, narrowly edges Pronger
best skater: Howe
best penalty killer: tie- Clarke & Dave Poulin
best fighter: tough one, I'll go with Dave Brown
hardest hitter: Eric Lindros
strongest player: Lindros by a hair over Kerr
smartest player: Howe
best stickhandler: Rick Macleish
hardest worker: Clarke
best leader: Clarke
most skilled: Lindros narrowly over Howe and Giroux

discuss
- BiggE

best ex Flyer: Brindy, Forsberg, Williams, Sharp

best ex Flyer: Brindy, Forsberg, Sharp
- vejim

Can you define what you mean by and how you're judging this? Is this best post-Flyers career, or best guys who were at one point Flyers but we're judging their careers both with and apart from the Flyers?

My brother-in-law was diagnosed with ALS a few months ago and its just horrible. Anything that raises awareness and helps to fight this terrible disease is a good thing!
- BiggE

Yeah. It's awful. My cousin is actually my dads cousin but he was in his 30s. When my parents first got married they lived down the street from him. They basically helped raise him. My mom was inconsolable when she got the news. He had a wife and two young daughters.

Can you define what you mean by and how you're judging this? Is this best post-Flyers career, or best guys who were at one point Flyers but we're judging their careers both with and apart from the Flyers?
- jmatchett383

post flyer

Yeah. It's awful. My cousin is actually my dads cousin but he was in his 30s. When my parents first got married they lived down the street from him. They basically helped raise him. My mom was inconsolable when she got the news. He had a wife and two young daughters.
- PhillySportsGuy

Ugh, I hear you. My sister is a mess and I really worry bout their 2 teenaged daughters. It just frankin sucks!

FWIW
Best Flyers playmaker: Clarke
Best goal scorer: Kerr
Hardest shot: Leach
best PP QB: Mark Howe, narrowly edges Pronger
best skater: Howe
best penalty killer: tie- Clarke & Dave Poulin
best fighter: tough one, I'll go with Dave Brown
hardest hitter: Eric Lindros
strongest player: Lindros by a hair over Kerr
smartest player: Howe
best stickhandler: Rick Macleish
hardest worker: Clarke
best leader: Clarke
most skilled: Lindros narrowly over Howe and Giroux

discuss
- BiggE

Solid list as always Big E. I disagree with Dave Brown as best fighter. It's clearly Jody Shelley. Not even debatable.

best ex Flyer: Brindy, Forsberg, Williams, Sharp
- vejim

Don't you mean Carter, Richards and Bobrovsky? We would have won multiple cups with them.

Agreed, with the advent of advancd stats and even more focus put on possession, I'd argue we're more likely to see lower scores rather than higher ones.
- BINGO!

great, stats and low scoring games

whoooohoo !