and a ref just killed all the girly pics

You say you love kessel but it shows you don't. He's a top five player in the league IMO
- kessellover69

This thread is awesome

it's very convenient that you want to compare him to a guy with similar offensive output in one season, but Bergeron was and is one of the best 2-way players in the league.
- Feeling Glucky?

I think your finally getting what most knowledgable observers of the NHL are beginning to say about Turris.

and a ref just killed all the girly pics
- Feeling Glucky?

Mrs. Spatso complained again.

This has turned into a complete poop show, and I love it.
- ClarksonDavid

that's cause we have what I can only assume the be the real Matt Barnaby trolling on the site .... still hasn't lost his hatred for Ottawa stemming back to his days in Buffalo......

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain
- 1979AD

see Glucky .... even your leaf fan friends agree you're bonkers......

I don't understand the comparison talks between Kessel and Turris they play different positions and have entirely different roles. If you want to compare best players from Leafs and Sens it would be a comparison between Karlsson and Kessel.

If you want an effective comparison model for Turris in terms of the game and role he plays with the Sens the player you should be looking at is Patrice Bergeron. That is what Turris wants to be when he is fully grown.
- spatso

So you truly believe that Turris will be comparable to Bergeron at some (any) point in his career?

No words, dude.

So you truly believe that Turris will be comparable to Bergeron at some (any) point in his career?

No words, dude.
- BetterCallSaul

Last year Turris had numbers that match up pretty good with Bergeron. In fact, if they switched teams Turris would be a more than adequate replacement for Bergeron on the Bruins.

The even strength goal differential between Turris and Spezza was 49 goals playing on the same team. Hard to put in perspective how huge that number is in comparing the players to each other and determining the value of each player to the team.

Last year Turris had numbers that match up pretty good with Bergeron. In fact, if they switched teams Turris would be a more than adequate replacement for Bergeron on the Bruins.

The even strength goal differential between Turris and Spezza was 49 goals playing on the same team. Hard to put in perspective how huge that number is in comparing the players to each other and determining the value of each player to the team.
- spatso

wow. just wow. Someone doesn't watch both players and looks at stats

see Glucky .... even your leaf fan friends agree you're bonkers......
- GadesnSens

WTF are you talking about?

Last year Turris had numbers that match up pretty good with Bergeron. In fact, if they switched teams Turris would be a more than adequate replacement for Bergeron on the Bruins.

The even strength goal differential between Turris and Spezza was 49 goals playing on the same team. Hard to put in perspective how huge that number is in comparing the players to each other and determining the value of each player to the team.
- spatso

Which numbers? Goals and Assists?

Turris stats do not come close to Bergeron.

Which numbers? Goals and Assists?
- 1979AD

Goals, assists, goal differential and almost all advanced stats suggest that Turris plays a game in the mould of Bergeron. Turris would have been an effective replacement for Bergeron in that Bruin line up. And, Turris is going to get a lot better.

I think your finally getting what most knowledgable observers of the NHL are beginning to say about Turris.
- spatso

care to share any names, articles, etc?

Bergeron was a 70+ point player as a 20 year old before he settled into his current elite defensive style of play. Turris is not close.

This thread is awesome
- SENS 613

That guy just started his account today, and already got it banned.

Goals, assists, goal differential and almost all advanced stats suggest that Turris plays a game in the mould of Bergeron. Turris would have been an effective replacement for Bergeron in that Bruin line up. And, Turris is going to get a lot better.
- spatso

Care to show where you are getting this info? Bergeron pts/60 is much higher, his corsi is in a different stratosphere.

Turris's stats do not compare to Bergeron

testing...

Bergeron 30. 32 62. +38

Turris. 26. 32 58 +22

Now look at Bruin goal differential and Bergeron's performance in relation to overall team performance. Clearly Bergeron leads team performance. Now look at Turris goal differential in relation to overall team performance. His numbers are right off the charts on a comparative basis. Kid is a 200' player and worthy of comparison to Bergeron.

Bergeron was a 70+ point player as a 20 year old before he settled into his current elite defensive style of play. Turris is not close.
- daeth

imagine him playing on the Leafs top line with Kessel and JVR?

Bergeron corsi is light years ahead. His pts/60 are better.


He doesn't compare well to Bergeron.


#delusional

and a ref just killed all the girly pics
- Feeling Glucky?

what I miss?

Prove it.

Goals, assists, goal differential and almost all advanced stats suggest that Turris plays a game in the mould of Bergeron. Turris would have been an effective replacement for Bergeron in that Bruin line up. And, Turris is going to get a lot better.
- spatso

Prove it.

Bergeron was a 70+ point player as a 20 year old before he settled into his current elite defensive style of play. Turris is not close.
- daeth

He's a top 10 C in the NHL, IMO.