i wasn't trying to say spezza was better than kessel. i was pointing out the fact that leaf fans criticized him for only being an offensive player......despite the fact that he's an excellent offensive player. but when it comes to kessel, leaf fans seem to think that offense is the only thing that matters.

the fact that you can't see your hypocrisy is hilarious.

i wasn't trying to say spezza was better than kessel. i was pointing out the fact that leaf fans criticized him for only being an offensive player......despite the fact that he's an excellent offensive player. but when it comes to kessel, leaf fans seem to think that offense is the only thing that matters.

the fact that you can't see your hypocrisy is hilarious.
- sensarmy_11

I don't remember ever reading that. What I do know is, no one has been crapped on the NHL the last 5 years than Kessel.

so health is now a factor when considering top 5 players? guess we have to take crosby out then.
- sensarmy_11

Why? Crosby has achieved all there is too achieve in hockey. Why are you taking him out? I haven't seen any fan of any team not have Crosby in the top 5

I don't remember ever reading that. What I do know is, no one has been crapped on the NHL the last 5 years than Kessel.
- RogerRoeper

phaneuf?

phaneuf?
- sensarmy_11

He's pretty close.

i wasn't trying to say spezza was better than kessel. i was pointing out the fact that leaf fans criticized him for only being an offensive player......despite the fact that he's an excellent offensive player. but when it comes to kessel, leaf fans seem to think that offense is the only thing that matters.

the fact that you can't see your hypocrisy is hilarious.
- sensarmy_11

I think you are confusing Prock with the other 10 million or so Leafs fans globally

Why? Crosby has achieved all there is too achieve in hockey. Why are you taking him out? I haven't seen any fan of any team not have Crosby in the top 5

really? REALLY?


should i explain the concept of sarcasm, or would you prefer to look it up yourself?

Defensive play is so very overrated.

Kadri? Bozak? Any Leafs player to ever don the jersey. Sundin, before Alfredsson did the same. Steen, until traded. And Stamkos shortly (ish).

I think you are confusing Prock with the other 10 million or so Leafs fans globally
- walshyleafsfan

you clearly don't venture into the forums much, do you?

Defensive play is so very overrated.
- RogerRoeper

Kulemin, the 2-way stud.

Kulemin, the 2-way stud.
- walshyleafsfan

Amazing two-way forward that can never hit double digits in goals the last 4 years.

Defensive play is so very overrated.

so does that mean toews isn't top 10, or kopitar? neither of them have been in the top 10 for scoring in the last few years.

Toews I think is overrated. Many think he's the best player in the world.

Toews I think is overrated. Many think he's the best player in the world.
- RogerRoeper

go home, you're drunk

is kessel better than toews?

Why not bold the second part of my comment, which explains.

I do, but the epically long comments by Spatso, the Terror and Tuna take a simpleton like myself a while to get through.

Then when I do, I bump into Pageau > Giroux, Karlsson may get 100 points this year, Turris = Bergeron and Bobby Ryan should get 8x8. It's hard to know if I'm reading stuff correctly.

I think Van fans did Leafs fans a favour by being more delusional/Potvin level bias and now you guys are relieving Van fans of that honour.

Why not bold the second part of my comment, which explains.
- RogerRoeper

consider it bolded......the point stands. if he isn't the best, he's EASILY top 3. not sure that qualifies as being overrated.

Toews offense simply is not good enough to be considered the best. Kane is more talented.

Amazing two-way forward that can never hit double digits in goals the last 4 years.
- RogerRoeper

Kulemin had 7 goals in 48 games and 9 in 70 the past 2 season
which is about an 11 goal pace over 82

with Carlyle who gives him like 35% OZ starts

Kulemin had 7 goals in 48 games and 9 in 70 the past 2 season
which is about an 11 goal pace over 82

with Carlyle who gives him like 35% OZ starts
- senstroll

Kulemin was given a more defensive role when he poop the bed following his 30 goal season.

I do, but the epically long comments by Spatso, the Terror and Tuna take a simpleton like myself a while to get through.

Then when I do, I bump into Pageau > Giroux, Karlsson may get 100 points this year, Turris = Bergeron and Bobby Ryan should get 8x8. It's hard to know if I'm reading stuff correctly.

I think Van fans did Leafs fans a favour by being more delusional/Potvin level bias and now you guys are relieving Van fans of that honour.
- walshyleafsfan

first of all, generally speaking, van fans NEVER started being more delusional than leaf fans.

second of all, using spatso as an example is like me using prock as an example.

third, terror is a bruins fan, not sure why you bring him up.

fourth, if you actually read what spatso wrote re. your claim that turris=bergeron, he said turris tries to tailor his game after bergeron's, and is the player he MIGHT turn into. not exactly the same as saying turris=bergeron.

Kulemin was given a more defensive role when he poop the bed following his 30 goal season.
- RogerRoeper

his 30 goal season was in the past 4...so stop saying stupid things.

his 30 goal season was in the past 4...so stop saying stupid things.
- senstroll

4 years ago.

4 years ago.
- RogerRoeper

so 2011 doesn't count ..crap