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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:35 PM ET
These are their new home and aways. I think they really compete for best jersey set (home, away, 3rd) in the league.
- JAKEw1234


Yeah, I posted earlier how much I liked the return to the 1980's they give...I also wished the Flyers would return to the 1980's style jerseys & coloring.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 25 @ 10:36 PM ET
It's simple, distinctive and has a nice nod to the city, outside of a couple of the outdoor game jerseys, I think it's the best third jersey in the league
- Jsaquella


right, the jersey is fine. the logo would have been fine if they left the arch out of it.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 25 @ 10:36 PM ET
I'd still like to see the lines shuffled a bit. I think that they can have a better overall top 9 by splitting the pairs up. I'd also like to see Couturier be utilized in more of a two way role.

I realize he's still going to get a big load on the defensive side of things, but he should get more OZ starts and more PP time. He managed two fewer points than Schenn in a much more difficult role and averaging a minute less per game on the PP.

- Jsaquella

I liked our team last year. I don't like the Umberger deal. However by moving on from Hartnell I've made my peace with moving on from Lecavalier. Many might disagree but moving on from Lecavalier to me goes hand in hand from moving on from Umberger too.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 25 @ 10:37 PM ET
Yeah, I posted earlier how much I liked the return to the 1980's they give...I also wished the Flyers would return to the 1980's style jerseys & coloring.
- Jsaquella


what about these? you know you love them.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 25 @ 10:38 PM ET
Injuries were a factor, but even this year they were not a regular season juggernaut. Good team, still struggled at times to score. Then they get down 3-0 to the Sharks, flip the switch and steam roll the damned league
- Jsaquella

The magic of the trade deadline in my opinion.

Looking at Carter and Ryan's numbers, they're pretty comparable as far as offensive numbers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
I liked our team last year. I don't like the Umberger deal. However by moving on from Hartnell I've made my peace with moving on from Lecavalier. Many might disagree but moving on from Lecavalier to me goes hand in hand from moving on from Umberger too.
- SuperSchennBros


I still see the Umberger for Hartnell deal as a lateral move, when all factors come into play. I don't like Umberger's contract, but the two fewer years make it easier to buy out or even possibly trade in a couple years. At the very least, unlike Hartnell, Umberger can slide down and play a third line or defensive role effectively.

As for Vinny, like Hartnell, I doubt he can be effective in a defensive role. They tried to move him and failed, now the coach has to make the best decision on where to fit him. Even after next season, the cap penalties to buy out Lecavalier are more harsh than to buy out Umberger.

I don't see moving one going hand in hand with the other, necessarily, although they may end up moving both out at the same time.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
what about these? you know you love them.


- hammarby31


They aren't bad.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:46 PM ET
The magic of the trade deadline in my opinion.

Looking at Carter and Ryan's numbers, they're pretty comparable as far as offensive numbers.

- SuperSchennBros


They are, but the Flyers still lack the Doughty and Voynov factor. I'd wait until UFA, if at all
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 25 @ 11:55 PM ET
what about these? you know you love them.


- hammarby31

very cool

months ago, I posted a link to icethtics. They were doing NFL style hockey jerseys. The Detroit Lions were great and I hate to say it, the Cowboys were awsome too
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Aug 26 @ 12:52 AM ET


May be my least favorite logo
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 26 @ 1:12 AM ET
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RABIES
May be my least favorite logo


mark_laforest
Location: i filled the bowl 3 times yesterday. i feel hollow in the abdomen.
Joined: 01.30.2011

Aug 26 @ 2:12 AM ET

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 26 @ 7:49 AM ET
http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/nhl/senators-extra/senator-clarke-macarthur-wants-to-convince-bobby-ryan-to-stay-a-while

I think there is a reason why teams like Ryan so much. He's easily the shot we're missing.

You of course have the right to your opinion but Bobby Ryan is easily a bigger name then Jake Voracek. Let's put abilities aside between the two players and focus strictly on names. Ryan might not be a Super Star but he's absolutely a star, probably on the same level as Jeff Carter. Four 30 goal seasons within his first four seasons in the NHL. That's not at least being a star? Ryan would have easily hit 30 again his season within his own abilities if not for his season ending injury. I could only imagine what he could do playing with Claude Giroux. I love Jake Voracek. He reminds me of a young Marian Hossa, but what good is his speed, size and skill if he's not shooting the puck more along side Giroux?

- SuperSchennBros


Honestly, who cares about the hype of a name? And I think we see an example here of a player whose name in lights seems to be bigger then the actual player is as a player. I think Ryan is a good player. But there are limits to what I would spend for that player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 26 @ 7:59 AM ET
Right now, Ryan is a better goal scorer than Simmonds. Two years from now? I wouldn't give him much more than the $5.1mm he's getting now. if that means he goes elsewhere, oh well.
- Jsaquella


Salaries will escalate. Two years from now, 5M will be close to a mid range salary.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
In the right deal I'd move anyone. If somebody is offering me a legitimate number one defenseman for some of the guys on that list, and he's not too old, I'd have a hard time saying no.

I have 3 guys I'd really need to be blown away to trade and they are Giroux, Voracek & Couturier.

- Jsaquella



no prospects on your keep list ?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 26 @ 3:37 PM ET
no prospects on your keep list ?
- -davies-


Oh sure, I was just talking NHLers...Laughton, Morin, Sanheim, Gostisbehere would top my list of kids in terms of guys it'd take an arm & leg to get me to trade them
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
Oh sure, I was just talking NHLers...Laughton, Morin, Sanheim, Gostisbehere would top my list of kids in terms of guys it'd take an arm & leg to get me to trade them
- Jsaquella


ahh ok... wasn't sure so i was surprised
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