I'm glad someone else said this first. During the season he was praised as being a straight shooter but some of the comments I've heard over the summer made by him just makes him sound like a meathead.
- SuperSchennBros

I've been saying it for awhile. It's hard to argue the overall results, but I'm of the opinion that Giroux catching fire had a lot more to do with it than Berube's coaching

http://www.nj.com/flyers/index.ssf/2014/08/vincent_lecavalier_needs_to_change_game_a_little_bit_says_flyers_coach_craig_berube.html
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Kind of lame on Berube's part. I don't recall one negative thing coming from VLC at all. Why rip a player by telling him he needs to get over something he never complained about?

*admires newly acquired wallet*

I've been saying it for awhile. It's hard to argue the overall results, but I'm of the opinion that Giroux catching fire had a lot more to do with it than Berube's coaching
- Jsaquella

I like Berube as far as strategy. I believe he was one of the first coaches to take advantage of the hybrid icing in the dying moments of a game when down a couple goals. That's great stuff. However when you give a new comer like Raffl a number of chances over the course of a season to play with Giroux but not give other players, maybe even more deserving players a look, it bugs me. Simmonds comes to mind. Easily one of our more productive players and hard working players only sees time with Giroux on the PP. The make of the PP was put together under Laviolette's watch.

I don't especially like him as head coach, but I do agree he's stressing the right things over the summer, with demanding guys show up in shape and be ready to go.

My concerns are more with his in game/line up decisions and balanced approach to holding guys accountable. I don't want to go as far as saying that they won in spite of him, but I don't think he was so great that he was a catalyst for the rebound.
- Jsaquella

I do agree that Giroux was more responsible for the teams success than Berube but overall I think hes not awful. Im fine with him as coach as long as he stops holding grudges against certain players and promoting others that frankly shouldnt even be in the NHL. Ill give him more time and a training camp until I fully judge his ability

I like Berube as far as strategy. I believe he was one of the first coaches to take advantage of the hybrid icing in the dying moments of a game when down a couple goals. That's great stuff. However when you give a new comer like Raffl a number of chances over the course of a season to play with Giroux but not give other players, maybe even more deserving players a look, it bugs me. Simmonds comes to mind. Easily one of our more productive players and hard working players only sees time with Giroux on the PP. The make of the PP was put together under Laviolette's watch.
- SuperSchennBros

I'd like to see them shuffle things, but Berube likes his pairs. He's going to keep Giroux and Voracek together. He's going to keep read and Couturier together and continue to use them in a heavy defensive role. He's going to keep Lecavalier with guys who don't necessarily drive play or who can handle things that minimize his weaknesses.

I just don't see him being very creative. Rinaldo gets suspended, he plugs in Rosehill. Grossmann gets hurt, he pops Hal Gill in, despite the fact that Gill played 4 or 5 games all season.

*admires newly acquired wallet*
- Crimsoninja

You're better than this

I do agree that Giroux was more responsible for the teams success than Berube but overall I think hes not awful. Im fine with him as coach as long as he stops holding grudges against certain players and promoting others that frankly shouldnt even be in the NHL. Ill give him more time and a training camp until I fully judge his ability
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Not sure who he promoted that shouldn't be in the NHL.

The young players he used did a good job overall.

You're better than this
- Giroux_Is_God

yes but someone had to post it

I'm rooting for Vinnie.

AMac too.

(frank) the haters.

I'm rooting for Vinnie.

AMac too.

(frank) the haters.
- Marc D

Kind of stupid to not root for them, ya know?

I'd like to see them shuffle things, but Berube likes his pairs. He's going to keep Giroux and Voracek together. He's going to keep read and Couturier together and continue to use them in a heavy defensive role. He's going to keep Lecavalier with guys who don't necessarily drive play or who can handle things that minimize his weaknesses.

I just don't see him being very creative. Rinaldo gets suspended, he plugs in Rosehill. Grossmann gets hurt, he pops Hal Gill in, despite the fact that Gill played 4 or 5 games all season.
- Jsaquella

I agree. I feel these decisions could be made by your everyday average fan.

Kind of stupid to not root for them, ya know?
- Giroux_Is_God

Seems pretty clear that some would rather rip holmgren than see those guys do well

I'm rooting for Vinnie.

AMac too.

(frank) the haters.
- Marc D

I'm going to root for them as long as they are on the team. I'm not going to ignore my concerns with either guy, but I hope Lecavalier scores 40 goals and that MacDonald turns into a legit top pair defenseman.

I agree. I feel these decisions could be made by your everyday average fan.
- SuperSchennBros

Most fans I saw disagreed with his decisions in these cases.

He wasn't awful, and generally seemed to learn from his mistakes, I'm just still far from sold on him as a head coach. Like with Vinny and MacDonald, I hope he proves me wrong.

I'm going to root for them as long as they are on the team. I'm not going to ignore my concerns with either guy, but I hope Lecavalier scores 40 goals and that MacDonald turns into a legit top pair defenseman.
- Jsaquella

didnt mean you, btw

Kind of lame on Berube's part. I don't recall one negative thing coming from VLC at all. Why rip a player by telling him he needs to get over something he never complained about?
- MBFlyerfan

maybe Bunny is complaining behind closed doors and Berube thinks it'll light afire under him

Most fans I saw disagreed with his decisions in these cases.

He wasn't awful, and generally seemed to learn from his mistakes, I'm just still far from sold on him as a head coach. Like with Vinny and MacDonald, I hope he proves me wrong.
- Jsaquella

What I mean is your description of the decisions he made. The moves seemed too basic. There was nothing savvy about his line decisions. The everyday average fan could make the decision to insert Gill for Grossmann, Gustafsson for Meszaros or Rosehill for Rinaldo.

didnt mean you, btw
- Crimsoninja

(frank) that I hope they lose so I can ignore my own shortcomings.

(frank) that I hope they lose so I can ignore my own shortcomings.
- Jsaquella

lol

What I mean is your description of the decisions he made. The moves seemed too basic. There was nothing savvy about his line decisions. The everyday average fan could make the decision to insert Gill for Grossmann, Gustafsson for Meszaros or Rosehill for Rinaldo.
- SuperSchennBros

True. I'm looking at the decisions over the course of the season. He failed to find an effective spot for Lecavalier, which might have been impossible anyhow. But he also locked into his pairs concept despite the fact that he seemingly had no faith in the Schenn/Simmonds pair from being able to play against tough competition and/or avoid D-zone starts if at all possible.

That's why I suggest splitting the pairs. I think it would allow them to free up Couturier for more offensive opportunity. It would allow them to generate more chances at ES no matter which line was out. Teams couldn't key on one line & get a better matchup in getting their top line away from Couturier's line.

True. I'm looking at the decisions over the course of the season. He failed to find an effective spot for Lecavalier, which might have been impossible anyhow. But he also locked into his pairs concept despite the fact that he seemingly had no faith in the Schenn/Simmonds pair from being able to play against tough competition and/or avoid D-zone starts if at all possible.

That's why I suggest splitting the pairs. I think it would allow them to free up Couturier for more offensive opportunity. It would allow them to generate more chances at ES no matter which line was out. Teams couldn't key on one line & get a better matchup in getting their top line away from Couturier's line.
- Jsaquella

totally on board with splitting giroux and jake

might be a bumpy road and take some time but like you said i think it could ultimately make them a tougher team to play against.

totally on board with splitting giroux and jake

might be a bumpy road and take some time but like you said i think it could ultimately make them a tougher team to play against.
- Crimsoninja

I'll use the Lecavalier situation as an example.

If he's playing center, do you put him with Simmonds? They were not very effective together, combined with Schenn. Who is the LW? If I'm giving Lecavalier a spot at 2C, I'm going to hedge my bet and put him with Voracek and perhaps Read, two guys that can drive possession, have good speed and who have good offensive instincts and can make plays.

Simmonds is a good player, but he's not going to find Vinny for one timers all that often. You go with 24-40-93 as a line, you can go 10-28-17, 18-14-12 and then Bellemare-White/Laughton-36/42 as a 4th line.

Not sure who he promoted that shouldn't be in the NHL.

The young players he used did a good job overall.
- Jsaquella

Rinaldo. Trying to give him more responsibilities. I should not be that subtle on the internet

I'll use the Lecavalier situation as an example.

If he's playing center, do you put him with Simmonds? They were not very effective together, combined with Schenn. Who is the LW? If I'm giving Lecavalier a spot at 2C, I'm going to hedge my bet and put him with Voracek and perhaps Read, two guys that can drive possession, have good speed and who have good offensive instincts and can make plays.

Simmonds is a good player, but he's not going to find Vinny for one timers all that often. You go with 24-40-93 as a line, you can go 10-28-17, 18-14-12 and then Bellemare-White/Laughton-36/42 as a 4th line.
- Jsaquella

Watch the 14 lovers aren't guna like his line mates lol all jokes.

Those lines work fine if schenn elevates his overall game. If him and g can create chemistry I think u will see his confidence grow and he will become a consistent player just like voracek did.