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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:07 PM ET
how is it stupid? i used to play baseball and the warning tracked saved my life many times i can see it being useful in hockey
- 2Real

Because a warning track in baseball is actually helpful. It's to save you from Aaron Rowanding your face. You concentrate on the ball...you're running with your head up. You're not looking at the wall.

In hockey, you know where the wall is. It's different than a warning track in baseball. It's just part of the awareness you have. I played for years and never, even when I was little, did I think "oh poop where's the wall let me look for the wall". Nothing would change.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
I'd be down for a league as well
- 2Real

Oh snap, if 2real is in the league I want in. The comedy!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
disclaimer....i didnt read the article but i like the concept. It may look silly but these players have not stopped drilling players into the boards while, the hitee is in a vulnerable position. Youth hockey has instituted placing a stop sign on the back of jerseys as a visual aid. If there is a "warning track" on the ice, though it may look silly, may help prevent a dangerous hit from occuring.
- KINGKENZO

The stop signs don't do poop either.

I've had stop signs on the back of my sweaters and have been hit from behind. I've seen other kids get hit from behind too.

If someone's mind is made up to wreck you, they're going to wreck you. It doesn't matter what you have on your back. The game is so fast, even at the youth level, you just make an instinctive decision and you go with it. If that decision is to plaster someone's face against the wall, then that's what you're going to do. It just doesn't matter.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
reminder: heiswrong 85% of the time
- BulliesPhan87

This

However, this could fall into the small portion of the times iamright
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
cheese bagel twists from dunkin donuts are tasty.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
cheese bagel twists from dunkin donuts are tasty.
- Streit2ThePoint

Dunkin donuts has surprisingly decent food
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
Dunkin donuts has surprisingly decent food
- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah I skeptical at first but it was bangin
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 28 @ 2:39 PM ET
Because a warning track in baseball is actually helpful. It's to save you from Aaron Rowanding your face. You concentrate on the ball...you're running with your head up. You're not looking at the wall.

In hockey, you know where the wall is. It's different than a warning track in baseball. It's just part of the awareness you have. I played for years and never, even when I was little, did I think "oh poop where's the wall let me look for the wall". Nothing would change.

- Giroux_Is_God

what if you're a young kid and either your head is down not looking forward or your head is on a swivel?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 28 @ 2:39 PM ET
Oh snap, if 2real is in the league I want in. The comedy!
- coffee junkie

alright someone put up a league so u can get rekt
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 28 @ 2:50 PM ET

coatesy
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:51 PM ET
what if you're a young kid and either your head is down not looking forward or your head is on a swivel?
- 2Real

You'd still know where the wall is. How many times have you seen a kid or adult just go smashing into the boards unimpeded like aaron rowand?

Besides, a 1 foot wide line isn't going to save you. You can't slow down and/or stop on a dime that fast at any kind of speed if you're not ready for it. That's why warning tracks are like 6 feet wide.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 28 @ 3:02 PM ET
I will no longer be attending games

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...ls-nixed-for-next-season/

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
The stop signs don't do poop either.

I've had stop signs on the back of my sweaters and have been hit from behind. I've seen other kids get hit from behind too.

If someone's mind is made up to wreck you, they're going to wreck you. It doesn't matter what you have on your back. The game is so fast, even at the youth level, you just make an instinctive decision and you go with it. If that decision is to plaster someone's face against the wall, then that's what you're going to do. It just doesn't matter.

- Giroux_Is_God


Easy solution: retractable spikes on the backs of jerseys that are triggered by proximity sensors along the boards.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
I will no longer be attending games

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...ls-nixed-for-next-season/


- Streit2ThePoint

I always thought that they were a collection of Coatsey's illegitimate children. With him moving off ice level, it confirms it for me
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 28 @ 3:29 PM ET
I will no longer be attending games

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...ls-nixed-for-next-season/


- Streit2ThePoint


What's next?

Lowering the volume of the music?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 28 @ 3:34 PM ET
What's next?

Lowering the volume of the music?

- tangent_man


There will be no music at all. Everyone must stay seated in their seats at all times. No talking or yelling. No slouching.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 28 @ 3:36 PM ET
I will no longer be attending games

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...ls-nixed-for-next-season/


- Streit2ThePoint

I'm going to enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth over this.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 28 @ 3:54 PM ET
disclaimer....i didnt read the article but i like the concept. It may look silly but these players have not stopped drilling players into the boards while, the hitee is in a vulnerable position. Youth hockey has instituted placing a stop sign on the back of jerseys as a visual aid. If there is a "warning track" on the ice, though it may look silly, may help prevent a dangerous hit from occuring.
- KINGKENZO

it is a good idea
plastering a guy at full speed into the boards is a d*ck move
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
it is a good idea
plastering a guy at full speed into the boards is a Richard move

- Marc D



Sometimes it's accidental, a lot of times, it's simply about a lack of respect.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
I understand that. But I don't want to move read and vorcek to try and jump start vinny at the risk of losing the effectiveness they bring on the lines they already play with.

Also as Berube said in a recent interview he talked to Vinny and he might have to change his game a little. Maybe playing with simmonds and raffl or whoever he has to grind out shifts more. Raffl had decent skills to make plays and Simmonds can work the greasy areas.

- J35Bacher


We've been giving Vinnie the leftovers of linemate choices and expecting him to be plugged in. That's been the issue. Vinnie's got skills that you can use but you have to take care of his limitations. there are 3 linemates that could help him become productive because they are good playmakers. Read, Voracek and Giroux. My vote is for Read and to leave Voracek and Grioux together.

Schenn-G-Voracek
Read-Vinnie-Simmonds
Umberger/Bellamere-Coots-Akeson/Raffl
Leftovers + Rinaldo

Until we build a line around Vinnie instead of trying to insert him in somewhere he is not going to produce, and we're going to have to pay his salary on another team. We give him a decent linemate and trade possibilities open up as we start showing what he can do with a playmaker.

We are unfortunately short on playmakers... unless Bellamere or Umberger gels with Vinnie... and Bellamere could really surprise.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 28 @ 4:00 PM ET
Sometimes it's accidental, a lot of times, it's simply about a lack of respect.
- MJL

this

it is a shame
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 28 @ 4:01 PM ET
I will no longer be attending games

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...ls-nixed-for-next-season/


- Streit2ThePoint

"...ridiculous rules about when and where they could eat"

exception for all the cannolis they can eat

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 28 @ 4:03 PM ET
Easy solution: retractable spikes on the backs of jerseys that are triggered by proximity sensors along the boards.
- Tomahawk

Easy indeed.

GID hexy
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Aug 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
We've been giving Vinnie the leftovers of linemate choices and expecting him to be plugged in. That's been the issue. Vinnie's got skills that you can use but you have to take care of his limitations. there are 3 linemates that could help him become productive because they are good playmakers. Read, Voracek and Giroux. My vote is for Read and to leave Voracek and Grioux together.

Schenn-G-Voracek
Read-Vinnie-Simmonds
Umberger/Bellamere-Coots-Akeson/Raffl
Leftovers + Rinaldo

Until we build a line around Vinnie instead of trying to insert him in somewhere he is not going to produce, and we're going to have to pay his salary on another team. We give him a decent linemate and trade possibilities open up as we start showing what he can do with a playmaker.

We are unfortunately short on playmakers... unless Bellamere or Umberger gels with Vinnie... and Bellamere could really surprise.

- flyler



I see what your saying but Vinny isn't our future. Building lines around Giroux and Couturier are. Yes we need Vinny to get going but as Berube said he might have to change his game a little. We talk about getting Courturier more involved offensively well then we should not take Read off his line. There is cheistry there. I feel like the Couturier line could do what Bergeron does for Boston in a way. Play very solid in there own zone but also contribute offensively.
TJ
New York Rangers
Location: PA
Joined: 11.27.2007

Aug 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
I will miss seeing Steve Coates on television but hey, I loved watching Bryzgalov interviews. A little humor and a laugh is good for the soul.
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