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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
Totally agree. People forget the work he turned in during the regular season when they brought him in.
- johndewar


He did well prior to the Final, too. I wonder if he would have shut out Pittsburgh or Washington 3 times like he did to Montreal, but he did well vs the Bruins and Habs
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
Totally agree. People forget the work he turned in during the regular season when they brought him in.
- johndewar


He's actually a pretty good goalie... its just too bad he'll never be able to outlive that Scott Norwood moment.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 2 @ 11:16 AM ET
He's actually a pretty good goalie... its just too bad he'll never be able to outlive that Scott Norwood moment.
- Tomahawk


If only it had been wide right.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:17 AM ET
If only it had been wide right.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Norwood and Jeff Carter are probably somehow related.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:20 AM ET
Norwood and Jeff Carter are probably somehow related.
- Tomahawk


Well, Carter eventually won...Norwood never kicked again.


Well he might have. I had the Giants and 4 points so I didn't care if he made it or missed it
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Sep 2 @ 11:27 AM ET
hopefully, Hexy can find another Hexy and some speedy Dmen
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
Well, Carter eventually won...Norwood never kicked again.


Well he might have. I had the Giants and 4 points so I didn't care if he made it or missed it

- Jsaquella


And I don't recall Norwoods kick being deflected....




Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
And I don't recall Norwoods kick being blocked....





- MBFlyerfan

Why the (frank) are we using a bottle opener to open a can
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
Why the (frank) are we using a bottle opener to open a can
- Giroux_Is_God



Because it makes that much bigger a pain in the arse?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
Why the (frank) are we using a bottle opener to open a can
- Giroux_Is_God

we're not very kitchen savvy
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
Are there any advanced stats on how a "good puck handling goalie" can effect a team's possession numbers? If the trapezoid opened up, you'd think these goalies would start having a more positive effect on these things.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
we're not very kitchen savvy
- BulliesPhan87

I'm savvy enough to use this mofo

Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Sep 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
Hi Bill
How about a recap on the first Czech player to actually come over and play in the Flyers organization, the unremarkable Rudy Tacjnar?
He may have been the first eastern block player ever that came over and played?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
I'm savvy enough to use this mofo


- Giroux_Is_God


sex toy?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:41 AM ET
Five players, IMO, that must stay healthy for the Flyers to succeed:

Claude Giroux
Obvious, no explanation necessary.

Steve Mason
I have confidence that Emery can fill in for the short term, but if Mason is lost for any length of time, they are in serious trouble

Braydon Coburn
The big guy is their #1 shutdown dman and will be expected to play major mns on the pk. There is no one on the roster that can do what Coburn does.

Sean Couturier
The Pk would greatly suffer without Coots and no other Flyers center can fill his shutdown role

Wayne Simmonds
Simmer is crucial to the success of the pp and he brings a physical element that no one else in the top 9 can replace

- BiggE


Simmonds can easily be replaced. He's just a younger version of Hartnell, so I'm sure Hartnell could pick up the slack if needed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
sex toy?
- BiggE


No, it's an easy bake oven.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:43 AM ET
Simmonds can easily be replaced. He's just a younger version of Hartnell, so I'm sure Hartnell could pick up the slack if needed.
- jmatchett383


say what?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 2 @ 11:45 AM ET
Simmonds can easily be replaced. He's just a younger version of Hartnell, so I'm sure Hartnell could pick up the slack if needed.
- jmatchett383


Plus Hartnell has better chemistry with Richards.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:47 AM ET
Are there any advanced stats on how a "good puck handling goalie" can effect a team's possession numbers? If the trapezoid opened up, you'd think these goalies would start having a more positive effect on these things.
- eayost


You can try looking at the team's shot metrics with and without the puck handling goalie... control for competition and roster changes, and you might glean some info from that.

Numbers aside, I think it's pretty safe to assume that a guy like Mason who can completely diffuse a forecheck w/ a single pass probably has a positive marginal effect. I'm glad we finally have one of those again, versus seeing our attack constantly stymied by Fatso.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:47 AM ET
Plus Hartnell has better chemistry with Richards.
- Streit2ThePoint


Absolutely. Plus, his line with Leino and Briere has had great chemistry in the past.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:48 AM ET
say what?
- BiggE


You can slot Hartnell in for Simmonds without missing a beat.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
You can slot Hartnell in for Simmonds without missing a beat.
- jmatchett383


Yeah, ok
How are things going back in 2013?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:54 AM ET
You can try looking at the team's shot metrics with and without the puck handling goalie... control for competition and roster changes, and you might glean some info from that.

Numbers aside, I think it's pretty safe to assume that a guy like Mason who can completely diffuse a forecheck w/ a single pass probably has a positive marginal effect. I'm glad we finally have one of those again, versus seeing our attack constantly stymied by Fatso.

- Tomahawk


Yea, the numbers from the Devils pre-trapezoid would be interesting to see if they exist. For whatever reason my work blocks behindthenet as a "gambling" site :/
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:55 AM ET
Yeah, ok
How are things going back in 2013?

- BiggE


Not too well. We're 1-7, looks like we need to blow it up.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:56 AM ET
Yea, the numbers from the Devils pre-trapezoid would be interesting to see if they exist. For whatever reason my work blocks behindthenet as a "gambling" site :/
- eayost

All that Corsi related betting
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